Atlas Trainman 4750 hoppers

Al, I think you'll no doubt see more 4750 in the near future...   The car is too popular of a car to not run it again and again and again.

The Pullman-Standard 4427 3-bay hoppers have already been produced and released.

The 4750 3-bay hoppers could be announced in July when the next Atlas catalog arrives.

The B&O, C&0, WM might not have had very many of the PS-2-CD 4750 hoppers, since the photos of them are hard to find.

Andrew

Here is one photo of a B&O Chessie System PS-2-CD 4750 CU FT covered hopper.

http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-...?i=bo603700&o=bo

BO 603700-603899      

2 or 4 road numbers?

Andrew

Andrew & Mike DeBerg,

Thank you for your inputs & for the fantastic photo,I hope Atlas is watching.

B&O is the only Railroad that had 4750s as you mentioned. B&O had 200 cars. C&O had 4740s,not sure about WM never saw any in WM lettering.

I have photos for FAMILY LINES.

These would make nice models I think,they were beauties when they came out of the shops. A few FAMILY LINES &SEABOARD SYSTEM hoppers are still floating around,mostly with CSXT reporting letters & numbers now.

Thanks again.

Al

I have both numbers for BN. I'd like to see Atlas make more than two numbers for the larger roads at least BNSF, NS and CSX.

Paul,

I agree we need at least 4 numbers. Atlas did 4 numbers on some cars then dropped to 2,why I'll never know.

They also need to supply replacement decals that make multiple cars with different car numbers possible.

For CSX,I've been able to get close with Woodland Scenics dry transfers,but the entire car number neds to be changed to make the car number look correct.

Al Hummel 

Western Maryland had the PS-2-CD 4740 Cu Ft. 3-bay covered hoppers that Weaver produced and Lionel will be producing.

http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-...pl?i=wm4727&o=wm

WM 4701-4750      

Andrew

Falcon Service

The MILW - MILWAUKEE ROAD scheme has to be on the PS-4750 3-bay hoppers, soon.

SCL would be one of the next covered hopper schemes to choose since they were built among the first PS-2-CD 4750 covered hoppers.

Falconservice,

It seems Atlas pulls cars at random without thought of schemes that came in order.

The SCL yellow 4750 should've been done years ago & rerun by now. A Chessie 4750 should've come along in a close time period with this yellow SCL hopper,as the Chessie System was formed in the early '70s.

The '70s Family Lines System 4750 scheme should've followed in the '77 time frame. Atlas did 4 cars of this version with LN reporting letters,but an SCL car should have been included,maybe 2 cars for each railroad for that 1 scheme.

The Pullman Standard version of 4750s for the Family Lines System,lots 1110 for SCL&1110B for L&N,were built in the 1980-'81 time frame. This scheme saw the "square" carrying the "Georgia,Clinchfield,West Point Route," lettering on the right side of the hoppers,whereas the '77 version saw the "square" on the left hand side of the hoppers. Lettering sizes,etc.,also saw changes on these later cars. 

Then came formation of the Seaboard System,which replaced the Family Lines scheme.

SCL&later the other raillines comprising the Seaboard System,merged to form modern day CSX.

I don't know if we can rely on Atlas to do these schemes or not. I'm,(let me think),lol,58& have all of these schemes well represented in HO models. Can I rely on Atlas to come out with these schemes in the next few years? At my age,I don't have 20 years to wait on them.  I have no positive or negative indication from Atlas I can expect any of these cars soon.

In addition to these models,Atlas still NEEDS to come out with letters & numbers for their cars so those of us running trains of more than 2-4 cars can change numbers! When all numbers of a certain car aren't available this would be a great help too. Also,in the case where a yellow SCL car is being modeled in the CSX era,the SCL reporting letters & numbers could be restecilled to represent a CSXT car,which Atlas is certainly NOT going to do a restencilled run of cars because of lack of demand,so this would be a nice solution for modelers so they could do this.

Given the small response of modelers that would like to see ANY of the cars mentioned,plus the small O Scale market vs other scales,I doubt we who do want these models will ever see them. If the market's that small,if i were in Atlas "shoes," i can understand their attitude concerning production-you can't sell what's not wanted.

So if I want these cars,sell out my O scale & stay with what I have in HO or custom decorate.

Again,my 2 cents on this situation as I see it at this point.

Al Hummel

I would certainly go for some 4750s in the original SCL yellow.  They were used systemwide in a variety of service.

There is a new catalog coming out on FRIDAY.

They could have new PS-4750 releases in that.

Andrew

Falconservice,

I just saw this in an email from Mr. Muffin's Trains!! This would be the SCL/yellow cars I'm thinking without pic's to be sure? I'll sure have some of those even though I was hoping for Family Lines,but this is a start in the right direction. Then again,maybe this is an SCL/Family Lines hopper???

I also see,Atlas is releasing new numbers of CSX 50'6" boxcars.

Thank you for this update,was going to post this here myself,when I opened up your post.

Al Hummel

To all:

Just got official confirmation the Atlas 4750 is yellow with black SCL letters in the middle. Glad to see this car. It presents 3 modeling possibilities. 1 car as produced with all original spec's,1 car with "SBD" letters & a new car number,then a "CSXT" car using the same car number,the only change would be the CSXT reporting letters.

This is almost non-existant in my era,but since it's my layout,I can make ANYTHING work.

Hasn't the Rock Island model been done?

Al Hummel

This is THE ROCK in blue, black & white.

ROCK ISLAND was the previous Gray and Black scheme.

I need THE ROCK PS-2-CD hoppers to match my other ROCK cars.

Andrew

The new catalog link is here

Al, yeah, although not exactly what you wanted, at least you can weather, fade and reletter these cars!

FALCONSERVICE,

Andrew you did good in suggesting the yellow SCL 4750. How's about Family Lines? Think Atlas will pay any attention to those schemes since they did 1 back around the 2009(?) time frame? Atlas did their CSX car at the same time-wonder since they did a rerun of the CSX 50'6" boxcar if they'll do a rerun of CSX 4750s? Atlas doesn't do much updating,meaning a rerun of CSX 4750s today,would find reflector stipes on the hoppers for the most part,which they didn't do on their rerun of the boxcars. MTH added updates to their rerun of Paper Hi Cubes which was a great touch.

I'd like to see Lionel make a 4750 with scale ladders,etc.,given the detail they're finally giving to 2 rail along with MTH. Atlas seems a bit,"stuck." Not trying to "bash" Atlas,just in my opinion only,making observations that I think need addressing.

Thank you,

Al Hummel