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  I have finished a rock face made from plaster castings over scuptamold.  I have painted the rocks withe burnt and raw umber, yellow ocher and  raw sienna.  The wall was modeled from a rock face near my house along tracks.  I plan to cover a lot of the ridges and gaps with clump foliage. I started the painting by spraying the whole wall with a light gray per one of the suggestions on this forum. I need to fill in the crevices and cracks with black,  but the black wash I mixed 32 to 1 is too thin to adhere to the plaster as it runs down the gaps.  I also have a problem with how to apply it.  Most of my paint has been applied using washes by the Woodland scenic Leopard spot method.  They have 2 videos demonstrating the technique, but each video applies the black differently.  In one, the painting is over sprayed with scenic cement and the black is washed on after the cement dries.  In the other video, the ocher, umber an sienna are applied followed immediately by the black with no coating applied prior to adding the black.  My question is should I wash, spray, or brush on the black and should I mix a Heavier black than the 32 to 1?  Also, I have not had a lot of success with scenic cement.  I there a tackier adhesive for applying clump foliage on vertical surfaces?

 

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You may be overthinking it.  I love the leopard spot technique on rocks.  I don't remember thinning out the colors.  I think it was more like dipping a wet brush in the paint.  Don't be afraid to put some color down, then your final wash will be thinned out, but not as watery as you describe it.  The scenic cement works great for adhering ground cover with a spray bottle.   For clump foliage use Elmer's glue, something more substantial.  Keep practicing.  Nobody knows the right way to do something unless he's done it a time or two.

That 32/1 ratio is way too thin depending on the type of paint your are using. I know that WS video says to do it 32/1 but it didn't work for me either. I tried 16/1 and even 8/1 and put it on with a foam brush. Just remember, black is unforgiving if it's too heavy. Always better to start light and get heavier as needed. Otherwise you just got black.

 

For gluing vertical clumps, you can use a tacky glue or a spray adhesive. 3M spray or the spray that Scenic Express uses.

Originally Posted by ChiloquinRuss:

Troels Kirk is one of the finest modelers of the current age and he paints the rocks black first then dry brushes the surface colors later.  

 Russ

 

 

Yes, indeed. There is little question that starting with a black base is the optimal way to achieve the look of deep shadows that most natural mountain scenes require. But for some reason, many people on this list find this fairly obvious advice impossible to accept. Conventional wisdom is not always wise.

Originally Posted by ChiloquinRuss:

Troels Kirk is one of the finest modelers of the current age and he paints the rocks black first then dry brushes the surface colors later.  Check some of his modeling here, it's ON30.  Russ

 

 

 

http://www.modvid.com.au/html/body_troels_kirk1.html

I use that method, paint the whole thing flat black or a very dark brownish black first, then come back with the rock colors, etc.  It fills in the crevices and gives some added texture and reality to it.  Troels Kirk had it right on how to do it. 

Last edited by Lee Willis
It's all the same when you follow with a black wash.  It certainly will get into any crevice you want. Or a gray wash, or a yellow, or better yet, a combo of them all.  I have found following the directions with the Woodland Scenics paint set worked great.  Of course, experience by doing and having kind of a feel for it are invaluable.  Don't overthink it.  You can get excellent results by experimenting.

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