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Hello BxCrSun fans, good morning to you all on this warm and sunny Sunday in central Texas.  The weather here has broken a little with temps only in the high 80's to low 90's today not the 100+ that we have seen almost continuously for the last 2 weeks.

Today, I am going to ask your indulgence and will present not a box car but a stock car.  It is a Marx #59 Union Pacific stock car that is quite common for the most part but this one has several unusual features.  Note: Marx made so many trains of any type that I hesitate to use the term "rare" but this one is certainly unusual.

Here is the side view.

What drew me to this car were several "unusual" features:  1. It is 8 wheel, this was Marx's first attempt to make more realistic rolling stock in the early period.  He took his popular 4 wheel 6" cars and added a frame and trucks to make the car 8 wheeled. It turns out that these 8 wheel cars did not survive the WWII shut down and were only offered in the pre-war period, ending in 1942.  2. It has Marx's first attempt at automatic couplers, often called "one-way" couplers.  The two ends were different and had to be coupled to the alternate end of a leading or following car.  As you can imagine, these couplers although they functioned well (but were complex and expensive to make) gave significant operating problems for train operation.  Finally and to me the most significant  3. This car is actually SLOTTED!  Every other example of this car I have seen either 4 or 8 wheel has lithographed white stripes along the car body to simulate slotted sides, this version actually  has those slots punched out.  It turns out Marx made the car this way early then switched to the white stripes later for ease of manufacture.  Overall this car was made from 1938-1942.

Marx #59 slotted cattle car side view

The Marx logo only appeared on one end and this shows the "post" end of the one way coupler.

Marx #59 slotted cattle car front quarter view

The rear quarter view shows no Marx logo and the spring loaded "slot or receiver" end of the one way coupler

Marx #59 slotted cattle car rear quarter view

Best wishes, hope your upcoming week goes well

Don

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Hello BxCrSun fans, good morning to you all on this warm and sunny Sunday in central Texas.  The weather here has broken a little with temps only in the high 80's to low 90's today not the 100+ that we have seen almost continuously for the last 2 weeks.

Today, I am going to ask your indulgence and will present not a box car but a stock car.  It is a Marx #59 Union Pacific stock car that is quite common for the most part but this one has several unusual features.  Note: Marx made so many trains of any type that I hesitate to use the term "rare" but this one is certainly unusual.

Here is the side view.

What drew me to this car were several "unusual" features:  1. It has 8 wheels; this was Marx's first attempt to make more realistic rolling stock in the early period.  He took his popular 4 wheel 6" cars and added a frame and trucks to make the car 8 wheeled. It turns out that these 8 wheel cars did not survive the WWII shut down and were only offered in the pre-war period, ending in 1942.  2. It has Marx's first attempt at automatic couplers, often called "one-way" couplers.  The two ends were different and had to be coupled to the alternate end of a leading or following car.  As you can imagine, these couplers although they functioned well (but were complex and expensive to make) gave significant operating problems for train operation.  Finally and to me the most significant  3. This car is actually SLOTTED!  Every other example of this car I have seen either 4 or 8 wheel has lithographed white stripes along the car body to simulate slotted sides, this version actually  has those slots punched out.  It turns out Marx made the car this way early then switched to the white stripes later for ease of manufacture.  Overall this car was made from 1938-1942.

Marx #59 slotted cattle car side view

The Marx logo only appeared on one end and this shows the "post" end of the one way coupler.

Marx #59 slotted cattle car front quarter view

The rear quarter view shows no Marx logo and the spring loaded "slot or receiver" end of the one-way coupler.

Marx #59 slotted cattle car rear quarter view

Best wishes, hope your upcoming week goes well.

Don

Don, thanks for your contribution and a great history lesson. That is a really neat looking car. I love the colors and the steer on the side.

Lionel 9464 Std. O Boxcar. This line of cars was from Pola molds. Not a bad looking car from a historical perspective. My 2 peeves? Roofwalk a little too high off the roof, and, the die cast trucks are mount eccentrically, so they swing back and forth with a fair amount of force. A broken stirrup, in my experience, is a not uncommon problem with this series of cars. This series was also produced with many cars featuring die cast frames.

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Here are a couple of Lionel 0-27 type (collectors often refer to these as "plug door" cars (which they are not).  Think about the era when these then famous retailers put out the funds to have Lionel make a box car for them...Penny's in 1977 and Sears in 1986...one for its 75th Anniversary and the other for its 100th !!  Today, both of these stores seem to be on the way out, Sears and Pennys both recovering from the verge of bankruptcy and are mere skelletons of their former selves

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Happy Sunday everyone, hope you  have a great week.

Don

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Here are a couple of Lionel 0-27 type (collectors often refer to these as "plug door" cars (which they are not).  Think about the era when these then famous retailers put out the funds to have Lionel make a box car for them...Penny's in 1977 and Sears in 1986...one for its 75th Anniversary and the other for its 100th!!  Today, both of these stores seem to be on the way out, Sears and Pennys both recovering from the verge of bankruptcy and are mere skeletons of their former selves.



Happy Sunday everyone, hope you have a great week.

Don

Don, nice boxcars. Do you know if they made a Montgomery Wards boxcar?

There are some really nice photos/videos this week guys, very interesting variety of roadnames! MELGAR, that bridge scene is excellent! Rob, great job on weathering that Weaver 57’ mech reefer, it really looks good. That car is on my bucket list.

I've been searching for a MTH Santa Fe 50' High Cube box car for a while and finally found this one last week. These High Cubes are my favorite MTH rolling stock.

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John

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@MELGAR posted:

This boxcar model of New York & Long Branch Railroad (Central Railroad of New Jersey) #25624 has no identification as to its manufacturer but I think it came in a box marked “Weaver.” This week, I ran it behind Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal 0-6-0T #15.

MELGAR

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Indeed, that's a Weaver, Mel. I'm presuming it's quite light and has "thumbtack" coupler actuators.

@Dave Ripp.- Dave, re your question of 7/30...I searched my reference material which is good up to about 2018 and could find no reference to a Montgomery Wards car either in the 0-27 series or one of the larger series of box cars.  This search is not really complete as my data on the Lionel offerings in recent years is much more scarce as it is not really my collecting focus.  Sorry I will continue to check as I go along but I can find no Wards boxcars (which in truth I find strange).  In my reference for "Uncataloged Sets" where most of this type boxcar was found in the section on Montogmery Ward the sets offered are considerably more "Lionel normal" than those for say Sears (i.e.they are about the same as Lionel cataloged sets).  Reviewing the Wards catalogs one finds that sets were offered from about 1955 to 1966 however not continuously.  There are no trains listed in the Wards catalog for 1959 and 1961-1965 and 1967-1969.  For those sets listed during the other years, the most common boxcars were the 6014 type but they used the "Bosco" and "Baby Ruth" and "Frisco" cars for the most part.

Hope this helps

Don

@Dave Ripp.- Dave, re your question of 7/30...I searched my reference material which is good up to about 2018 and could find no reference to a Montgomery Wards car either in the 0-27 series or one of the larger series of box cars.  This search is not really complete as my data on the Lionel offerings in recent years is much more scarce as it is not really my collecting focus.  Sorry I will continue to check as I go along but I can find no Wards boxcars (which in truth I find strange).  In my reference for "Uncataloged Sets" where most of this type boxcar was found in the section on Montogmery Ward the sets offered are considerably more "Lionel normal" than those for say Sears (i.e.they are about the same as Lionel cataloged sets).  Reviewing the Wards catalogs one finds that sets were offered from about 1955 to 1966 however not continuously.  There are no trains listed in the Wards catalog for 1959 and 1961-1965 and 1967-1969.  For those sets listed during the other years, the most common boxcars were the 6014 type but they used the "Bosco" and "Baby Ruth" and "Frisco" cars for the most part.

Hope this helps

Don

Thanks for the effort, Don. Montgomery Wards ceased operation in 2001. It's likely they didn't make it after that.

@Dave Ripp.- Great boxcar Dave, really neat slogan.  One more added to my "gotta get" list!! @leapinlarry - Hello from Texas friend, neat pictures as normal.  Love that "Aloha Shake" boxcar its really unique.  @MELGAR - neat GN boxcar but I really love that new GN switcher, it runs so quiet, neat locomotive.

Well today my selection is brand new (NIB and new to me) cars, they are part of Menards Military Service boxcars.  I find these Menards cars really neat especially at their price.  The truck frames are really detailed and the construction is robust.  Given my career experience with both the USAF and USN I had to have at least 2 of these.  So here are some of the new Menards cars.

Here is the AF boxcar with the image of an F-16.  I worked for many years as an engineer on the power plant used in this aircraft (and the F-15).  Jane's "All the Worlds Aircraft" called the F-16 the "P-51 of the 2nd half of the 20th century".

Menards USAF box side view

I include this picture of the roof because I liked that Menards colored the roof walk a different color than the body.  It sets it off and in fact "top down" is the view most of us have of these cars going around the layout.

Menards USAF box top view

The latter part of my career was with the Dept of the Navy (also as an engineer) so I had to get this one as well.  Of course my Navy work was with the AIR arm of the Navy (USN and USMC) , not ships (the USN is a 2nd largest air force in the free world) but I decided I still wanted the boxcar.

Menards USN box side view

Again the set off of the roof walk was a nice detail.

Menards USN box top view

Best Wishes Hope you have a successful and healthy upcoming week.

Don

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@Dave Ripp. posted:

Somehow out of a couple hundred boxcars I didn't have one until this week. Thanks to OGR sponsor Trainz for this one.

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For BOXCAR SUNDAY............Here you go Dave...........20230806_120645

Judy said " great minds think alike "  .    ( I haven't given her the opportunity yet today to change her mind ...I'm guessing )

Have a fun day.  God speed .

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