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Very nice, Pat!  That black one is a curious beast.  It looks to have a flatter finish than the regular tuscan or green examples.  Never being a fan of the factory applied locomotive sheen, I've seriously thought about giving my early MTH scale GG1 ( tuscan 4876 ) a coat of glossy lacquer.

Enjoy those beauties,Pat!

Hi Pat, I also have that MTH 4829.  When I posted pictures of my engine one of the forum members said it was not painted that way.  BUT the fact IS nobody knows for sure.  Another forum member contacted me.  He was involved in a GG1 research project looking through the Heritage Society's records.  He stated he/they could find NO information on 4829.

THe only picture I have found is published in "Pennsy Power III" taken May 22, 1937. They also included an enlargement of just the Motor.

I have been taking and developing film since I was 5-years old(am an original Baby-Boomer).  Have looked at all the GG1 pictures in this volume.  The stripes have a greater specularity then the other images.  And the GG! body has a darker grey scale tone.  BUT again nobody knows for sure!

A few years ago there was an article on the Pennsy in one f the real RR magazines.  The writer quoted some fellows that had indeed seen 4829.  They stated that  the stripes were silver and body dark.  (what is dark?)

Somewhere have a published picture taken not long after the 1937 picture with full gold stripes and appearing lighter grey scale tone of body.

BUT nobody knows,

Ron

crood58 posted:

I also got this Weaver City of Altoona Fire Department Tank Car off the ebay over the weekend. Since, I'm a firefighter I had to have it and got it for a pretty good price. The mean reason I purchased it was I thought it would go good with my SD60E first responder diesel that should arrive this summer. 

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Chris 

That's cool and will look great with your First Responders locomotive.  MTH is also offering an Altoona Works fire truck (30-50091), in case you weren't aware.

atlayank posted:

Hi, I recently bought the same bridge.  The inside dimensions are 4 1/4" wide and 4 3/4" high. 

Yours has a different roof on it than mine does.  I wonder which one is correct?AF

He said it did not have a roof and he found one that works. I'm not a purist, and frankly I wouldn't know the difference anyway- it looks okay to me 

Can you fit Std. Gauge engines under the top of it okay?

Pat Kn posted:

I just received these two GG1s I bought on line.

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The black one may not be prototypical (I think the prototype was brunswick green, which looked black in some light, with gold stripes.) but I think it is striking and I love it. 4829 was the only GG1 to get that type of stripping. I bought the green 5 stripe because I don't have a green 5 stripe and the price was right. Here is a picture of my 4 scale MTH GG1s (I also have a scale Williams GG1)

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GG1's are my favorite engines. I remember seeing them run through Levittown, Bristol and Croydon Pa.

PRRronbh posted:

Hi Pat, I also have that MTH 4829.  When I posted pictures of my engine one of the forum members said it was not painted that way.  BUT the fact IS nobody knows for sure.  Another forum member contacted me.  He was involved in a GG1 research project looking through the Heritage Society's records.  He stated he/they could find NO information on 4829.

THe only picture I have found is published in "Pennsy Power III" taken May 22, 1937. They also included an enlargement of just the Motor.

I have been taking and developing film since I was 5-years old(am an original Baby-Boomer).  Have looked at all the GG1 pictures in this volume.  The stripes have a greater specularity then the other images.  And the GG! body has a darker grey scale tone.  BUT again nobody knows for sure!

A few years ago there was an article on the Pennsy in one f the real RR magazines.  The writer quoted some fellows that had indeed seen 4829.  They stated that  the stripes were silver and body dark.  (what is dark?)

Somewhere have a published picture taken not long after the 1937 picture with full gold stripes and appearing lighter grey scale tone of body.

BUT nobody knows,

Ron

The book I have, "The Remarkable GG1" shows #4829 was built June 1935 by Baldwin / PRR / West, retired April 1967.

PRRronbh posted:

Hi Pat, I also have that MTH 4829.  When I posted pictures of my engine one of the forum members said it was not painted that way.  BUT the fact IS nobody knows for sure.  Another forum member contacted me.  He was involved in a GG1 research project looking through the Heritage Society's records.  He stated he/they could find NO information on 4829.

THe only picture I have found is published in "Pennsy Power III" taken May 22, 1937. They also included an enlargement of just the Motor.

I have been taking and developing film since I was 5-years old(am an original Baby-Boomer).  Have looked at all the GG1 pictures in this volume.  The stripes have a greater specularity then the other images.  And the GG! body has a darker grey scale tone.  BUT again nobody knows for sure!

A few years ago there was an article on the Pennsy in one f the real RR magazines.  The writer quoted some fellows that had indeed seen 4829.  They stated that  the stripes were silver and body dark.  (what is dark?)

Somewhere have a published picture taken not long after the 1937 picture with full gold stripes and appearing lighter grey scale tone of body.

BUT nobody knows,

Ron

Ron,

Thanks for the information. I had heard there was a controversy but everything I found had it listed as green. I have Pennsy Power II but to my knowledge there has never been a color picture of 4829. I agree with your "what is dark?" comment. DGLE is dark. So is black. I just assumed the color was DGLE which can be mistaken for black and the model was colored wrong. Regardless, although I like to be prototypically correct, the engine looks cool and I had to have it in my collection. 

shurlock1 posted:

Pat, I just received 2 powered trucks for a Williams non powered GG1 I want to power. You may have seen him at shows but I purchased many Williams parts from Charles Phillips.I will give his email if anyone needs items. kc97trainsmto@aol.com. He sends items out fast.

Thanks. I don't have a non-powered GG1. It's a shame that no one has used the tooling left behind by Williams for their scale GG1. The Williams Scale GG1 was a great engine. I have one and a past member of our club had one. They look great and don't require O-72 curves. They also run at a slower pace and do not have the jackrabbit starts of a lot of Williams engines. A great running and great looking scale classic engine with a big following for a reasonable price and nobody wants to (or can) make it. What a shame.

I recently bought two batches of  old RR magazines on the OGR forum. The one batch, RAILS NORTHEAST  goes to a friend tomorrow who will definitely appreciate it. A dedicated rail fan and photographer. Second is a big batch of CTTs  that I am thoroughly enjoying. Tremendous back in the early days.  Plenty of reading and amazing the  changes since the first issue.

WP_20160417_002 [1)WP_20160413_007 [1)this came today, growing up in South West Missouri near the Frisco Railroad I used to see these role through town, It took awhile for me to figure out where they came from and where they were going. They didn't come through that often, and it was after the B&N had bought out the Frisco that they would appear. So when J C Penny offered it in their catalog I was hooked. So I finally I got my MK&T and the matching caboose will be here sometime next week.WP_20160417_002 [1)WP_20160413_007 [1) 

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Keith6700 posted:

I went to Jerry's Records today in Squirrel Hill for Record Store Day 2016. I picked up a few LP's...

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Keith,

Fine choice of albums.   No wonder you get along so well with the old guys in our train club!    I think at one time,  I owned each one of those records.   There's another great place for old records in Millvale called "The Attic".

Nick 

Last week I got the last pieces to put together my Traditional sized O gauge Penn Central passenger train. The Engine and baggage car are Lionel. I got them awhile back and the other cars are MTH Rail king I picked up Thursday from Trainworld. 

The set is coming together and I am happy with it.imageimageimage

My only disappointment is the Allyns Point Sleeper MTH chose to do had a jade green window band and letter/number boards. I wish they had bothered to paint it in those more accurate colors. 

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I always thought the 397 was a cool yet messy accessory and have always wanted one. Got it for 20 bucks, spent $17 for the new belt and motor housing screw and with about a 1/2 hour of cleaning & maintenance it runs like a champ. The 1st picture doesn't show how grimey it actually was.

 

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