Arne posted:The Bing diaphragms are attached at the top and bottom, they are complete different to Marklin.
Arne
Arne- very nice, thank you for sending these photos. That really "makes" the set, I'll have to find one of these! Were these different from those offered by Hornby? Some photos from the internet of what is described as one from Hornby, as well as some reproductions (I do not have any). Thanks again.
MMmPhilipp posted:Hi. I’m the new guy.
I went down to a local thrift shop to buy a pair of pliers. For some reason I can’t really explain, I bought a caboose. I didn’t need a caboose because I didn’t have a train. A few weeks later, I found myself back at the shop buying a flatcar that I had not noticed before. Then I went on eBay to get a reproduction lumber load so that the flatcar stakes wouldn’t flop around. They were flopping around. While I was already there, on eBay, it didn’t seem unreasonable to get a locomotive and some track. I went back to the thrift shop for the tranformer and now they’re going ‘round and ‘round. I now have a complete train set, everything I need. Except... I compulsively just bought a little depot, for that passenger car that’s probably still at the thrift store. THEN, I’ll be done, right? I mean, I can stop any time I want. Right? I still need a pair of pliers.
Yeah, you definitely need a pair of pliers for working one the trains 😎
FRENCHTRAINS posted:John Smatlak posted:FRENCHTRAINS posted:
And here's the next question- how do you get a wheel/axle set out of one of the Bing 1920's O gauge trucks? I'm used to being able to widen up the truck frame enough to slip one end of the axle out (either by some gentle bending or disassembly), but I've discovered you can't do that with these. I removed the side frame from the truck with some further loosening of the tabs (this one was already loose at the old solder joint between the bolster and the side frame), but the ends of the axle appear to be captive inside the little O gauge axle box on the side frames. Do they have a collar on the end of the axle?
I need to straighten one bent axle, hence my interest. Some photos attached, along with a video of the Bing clockwork train running with the other two coaches.
Nice video John, your cars are perfect with the 440. Restoring Bing cars of that series is sometime painful... I have also had some difficulties and it seems that the bogies where not intended to be removed.
I have in the spare part section an extra bogie with the cover axle lost and here is the solution, a round collar at the end of the axle, you are right. Easy to remove when the cover is not on the bogie but at first you will need to move the two tabs, top and under, of the main frame bogie. look at the pictures it's maybe better to understand.
Good luck with your fixing. Daniel
Daniel- thank you for the reply. I would agree- it appears the wheel/axle sets were not meant to be removed. One axle did remove itself while I was working on it and I found it had a slightly different axle end than in your photos, this one appears to have a groove cut into it and that snaps into a corresponding opening inside the axle box, although perhaps it is just very worn. I was however able to straighten the bent axle with some pliers once I had the extra length exposed by removing the side frame from the bolster (of course it was the other axle, not the one that fell clear of the frame). That was more than enough fun for me, so I have now attempted to put it all back together with some epoxy to try and keep the bolster/side frame connection together. We'll see how that works. Thanks again!
I nabbed the blue af machinery car,,long time to find this,,,now have both
I got the Pullman from the thrift shop. They were having a sale, spend $10, get $5 off something else, so the light tower was free. Who doesn't like free?
The observation car and depot came in the mail today. The depot is about the size of one of those parking lot coffee huts you see everywhere anymore.
The crossbuck came from my roommate. We will call her 'the enabler.' It must be about 20-25 feet tall.
I kind of like that everything is in less than pristine condition.
picked up a Marx PFE boxcar
George S posted:Bought some Paya replica automobiles that are a good fit for Standard gauge.
George
Those are the coolest cars EVER!
Especially the taxi.
It would have been sweeter with syrup, eh? 
But then again you wouldn't want it CP-ing out. 
George S posted:Bought some Paya replica automobiles that are a good fit for Standard gauge.
Micky needs a crowd of children... Why? Because he.. likes-um! 
Adriatic posted:It would have been sweeter with syrup, eh?
But then again you wouldn't want it CP-ing out.
A sticky situation all around! 🍯
And I see what you did there!
Adriatic posted:George S posted:Bought some Paya replica automobiles that are a good fit for Standard gauge.
Micky needs a crowd of children... Why? Because he.. likes-um!
Is the Mickey Pridelines?
Joe Gozzo
George S posted:Bought some Paya replica automobiles that are a good fit for Standard gauge.
Great fine George!
Joe Gozzo
George S posted:Bought some Paya replica automobiles that are a good fit for Standard gauge.
Great fine George!
Joe Gozzo
Trainlover160 posted:Adriatic posted:George S posted:Bought some Paya replica automobiles that are a good fit for Standard gauge.
Micky needs a crowd of children... Why? Because he.. likes-um!
Is the Mickey Pridelines?
Joe Gozzo
It’s a TCA piece, probably made by Pride Lines.
Steve
Found this sign in an Antique Store. The guy had the as part of a Lionel set, that was way over priced. Came home and found them on the bay! Always nice to find something you never knew existed.
Joe Gozzo
They are Marx. Came in many sets with auto couplers.
Steve
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:Trainlover160 posted:Adriatic posted:George S posted:Bought some Paya replica automobiles that are a good fit for Standard gauge.
Micky needs a crowd of children... Why? Because he.. likes-um!
Is the Mickey Pridelines?
Joe Gozzo
It’s a TCA piece, probably made by Pride Lines.
Steve
It commemorates the 1995 TCA National Convention that was held in Seattle. It was listed as Pride Lines when I bought it. There is a similar Donald Duck that I may try to find.
George
A while back I picked up an O gauge Flyer Hudson loco (1680/4680-1681 Type XII) with a sheet metal "flat top" fluted-roof (Type XI) tender. I just found a set of the 6-axle streamliner cars (in chrome) Ca. 1938-39 to go with it. I've always liked these cars, but have noticed they're hard to find in good condition. This particular set is a little played with, but overall has a quite satisfactory appearance. The celluloid window inserts (with the blue window shade stripe) are happily still in good shape, which is a really nice feature.
Looking at examples of this set owned by other collectors, and photos on the internet, the Hudson I have apparently does not have the correct tender for the sets with the chrome cars. The Greenberg American Flyer Prewar O gauge book, page 210 discusses "sets with chrome cars"- the No. 20 and 321 sets in which these chrome cars were paired with the Hudson came with the Type XII tender, which has a coal bunker and 6-axle trucks. The 6-axle trucks make sense as they match the cars, although a tender with the flat top roof (instead of the coal bunker) would match the profile of the passenger cars. I'm still digesting the info on page 72 re: the tenders. More info would be welcome.
Still need to get the headlight working on the Hudson, but in any case this set has a mighty roar going around the layout, some photos and videos attached for your enjoyment.
looks great John!
Did a little bit of "dealing" yesterday. Traded my two Lionel 2034s, that I paid $20 for,to a antique dealer for a 2025e that needed a little help. Cleaned & lubed her and she ran but the smoke unit is gummed up. The rear truck is missing so right now it is a 2-6-0. Had to make & put a drawbar, too. Runs nice. I have another 2025 with the aluminum stack.
Double dipping with another thread a bit here but I’ll go into more detail and show some more pieces
Bing Southern Railways present to myself
Fleichmann postwar 405070 with 1970s Britain’s deTail Scots Guard. Soldiers underneath, unsure of nationality but they look cool as do the porters(even if they’re not tin lol!) found the 2 wind up cars up in Pop’s attic on Christmas
My pop made this Gulf Oil tower for my dad in the 70s. I’d previously been using the green platform as a landing pad and then I found the Gulf tin on Christmas when exploring Pop’s attic
disxlaimer: layout under construction
I’m have a few Modern Marx prototypes-shop samples. Marx was very good about identifying these. I have passed on a few due to no markings or tag. Our forum friend Robert Butler has tons. Here are a few of my recent arrivals.
Steve
I love this one. Royal Canadian, I don’t think it was ever produced.
Marx Trains would begin fit checking as parts were being made, often using original Marx parts while waiting for their parts to be made. This was a learning opportunity for them to verify fit as their parts became available. This one is a fully functioning Modern Marx loco, but it has original Marx side plates.
Not sure about this one. The boiler is obviously a 8401 Marlines Loco, but the side boards are from the very hard to find gray PRR 8271. No factory markings or tag, so no 100% sure this is a factory piece. Due to the uncertainty, I've passed on a few others with no markings, but this one caught my fancy so I bought it anyway.
StevefromPA posted:Double dipping with another thread a bit here but I’ll go into more detail and show some more pieces
Bing Southern Railways present to myself
Fleichmann postwar 405070 with 1970s Britain’s deTail Scots Guard. Soldiers underneath, unsure of nationality but they look cool as do the porters(even if they’re not tin lol!) found the 2 wind up cars up in Pop’s attic on Christmas
My pop made this Gulf Oil tower for my dad in the 70s. I’d previously been using the green platform as a landing pad and then I found the Gulf tin on Christmas when exploring Pop’s attic
disxlaimer: layout under construction
Neat stuff. The soldiers are awesome and fit right in. Some of those can be pretty valuable.
George
A 13 year search just came to an end.
Steve
Tease!
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:A 13 year search just came to an end.
Steve
Now I'm hearing the final jeopardy song playing in my head
Joe Gozzo
Trainlover160 posted:Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:A 13 year search just came to an end.
Steve
Now I'm hearing the final jeopardy song playing in my head
Joe Gozzo
It’s one of three version of the first boxed set produced by Marx Trains (modern)
Steve
It's ok Steve, you can open it, put the fear and anticipation behind...and open that puppy!......the outer box at least...
Like the 3 legged pig, you don't want to finish it all at once
Ok, the box has been opened. The set I received is the 10251 C on top. I got the M in 2006 and the S in 2008. Been a long search for the C. These were the first boxed sets produced by Marx Trains, done in 1995. The Rock Island set is commonly called the White Set. The difference is the special white hopper, only available in these sets. M is Monon, S is SOO and C is C&O. The WP boxcars came in four road numbers and were used randomly.
My experience is the M is the most common, followed by the S and the C being the rarest. Only a total of about 200 sets were made.
Steve
,
That......is a really nice set Steve. Congrats on the long wait!
beautiful set!
John Smatlak posted:A while back I picked up an O gauge Flyer Hudson loco (1680/4680-1681 Type XII) with a sheet metal "flat top" fluted-roof (Type XI) tender. I just found a set of the 6-axle streamliner cars (in chrome) Ca. 1938-39 to go with it. I've always liked these cars, but have noticed they're hard to find in good condition. This particular set is a little played with, but overall has a quite satisfactory appearance. The celluloid window inserts (with the blue window shade stripe) are happily still in good shape, which is a really nice feature.
Looking at examples of this set owned by other collectors, and photos on the internet, the Hudson I have apparently does not have the correct tender for the sets with the chrome cars. The Greenberg American Flyer Prewar O gauge book, page 210 discusses "sets with chrome cars"- the No. 20 and 321 sets in which these chrome cars were paired with the Hudson came with the Type XII tender, which has a coal bunker and 6-axle trucks. The 6-axle trucks make sense as they match the cars, although a tender with the flat top roof (instead of the coal bunker) would match the profile of the passenger cars. I'm still digesting the info on page 72 re: the tenders. More info would be welcome.
AF Celluloid tends to stay better than Lionel. Thankfully! Greenberg book is correct. The ribbed top tenders were 1936-1937 and the Die cast tenders with the Chrome cars came out in 1938 (4 car set) and 1939 (3 Car set). The ribbed top came with the green cars with black 4 wheel trucks and belly pans. Note that the stripe on the tender is similar to the green cars...
After my doctor’s appt today I stopped at a local antique mall. Went there with the intention on picking up some toy soldiers and at least checking for any new trains one of the stands might have when I stumbled upon this...
tag also said “loco runs and light works”. So I got my first Ives train! 3250 loco. At the price, even if it didn’t run, I couldn’t pass it up.
Gave it a little TLC before putting it on the track and removing the body- and it runs! Makes it around the track fine the motor is really growls and creates a bit too much o-zone smell. Upon removing the body,The inside was incredibly dusty(all the coils had a thick coating of dust), I used some compressed air, toothpick, and q-tips- but it’s still making that noise and smell. I don’t plan on running it a whole lot since almost no restoration has been done(besides a new bulb), the wheels are cracking and it’s 94 years old with original parts it still works. The wheels aren’t the problem, so maybe when I’m feeling better I’ll take it apart and remove all the crap that’s probably causing the smell. Nonetheless, incredibly happy with this find.
I've found a decent amount of good deals at the antique shops. That Ives looks great! Love to come across one. nice find.
@Steamer thank you! Tons of antique shops in my area, this one is more of a “marketplace” that has a bunch of stalls and the vendors either specialize in one or two areas or have a hodgepodge. Regardless, when I saw that just sitting there(after spending a lot of time looking at prewar flyer electric outlines the last 2 days), my jaw dropped.
After reading up more on the forum and looking at the original 1925 manual, gave the new stamped metal can some oil and viola! No more sparks or rumbling, runs great. I think the heavy stamped metal noise threw me off a bit(concussion has messed with my eyes and hearing). Will post some pictures and/or a video later
An ode to pre and early postwar tinplate, and their couplers- “why can’t we be friends”
Featuring:
Ives Railway Lines 3250
American Flyer Lines “American Railway Express” 1205
American Flyer Lines 3000
Bing Southern Railway Freight car
Bing Deutsche Reichsbahn Baggage Car 10/565
Lionel Lines Passenger Car 1690
Fleischmann 45070
Marx Northern Pacific Hopper 554
Marx New York Central Caboose 20102
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