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The CSRM is everything right and everything wrong with a big RR museum. A first class collection of equipment displayed very nicely. At the same time, they were over-whelmed with the Santa Fe collection, delivered in running condition and almost display ready. With no place to put the equipment and no plans/money to do anything, they just let the collection rot, rusting away, vandalized and parts stolen.   

I wouldn't count on either.

 

I note that San Diego raised six million to build a reproduction of the 16th Century San Salvador, a 111' Spanish Galleon.  Six million is no longer much money, but it might have been enough to preserve those Santa Fe locomotives.  Apparently all this was done without taxpayer support.

 

I believe one million would be enough to restore our Harriman ten-wheeler.  It kinda depends on how ardent the fund raisers are, and how interested the population is.

 

I had not heard before that those steamers arrived in operational condition in Sacramento, unless that means only that wheel bearings were ok.

Originally Posted by bob2:

I had not heard before that those steamers arrived in operational condition in Sacramento, unless that means only that wheel bearings were ok.

You're right.  However, the engines had been carefully stored, and they were delivered at no cost to the museum, after which the museum effectively spit in the eye of the Santa Fe.

 

I was Road Foreman of Engines at Barstow at the time, and accompanied the movement from Needles to Barstow, and I can verify that great care was taken to do no damage in transit, so that a large and unique collection of equipment could be delivered in good condition for display.  Some of the equipment could have been made operable with little more than new batteries and Federal inspection, whereas some (including the steam engines) would have required some work.

 

But enough complaining about the museum's shortcomings.  They do have a nice display inside.

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The only time I've been there was in 2005, my wife green lighted me going down there for a weekend, so I spent an entire day there, then went to Jamestown the following day. No excursion trains running at either location when I was there, but it was well worth the trip. I want to go back badly as the upper floor of the main museum was totally closed for the installation of an exhibit.
Many people forget to also go South to Jamestown, it's an amazing place!
 
 
Originally Posted by Alan Rogers:
Originally Posted by Cabrat4449:

...mentionting nothing of the Santa Fe engine shoved out along the river...

 Sorry guys! Couldn't get any closer than the 80....

Sacramento 084

Just because a steam locomotive has some surface rust, that in itself is no indication on it's overall condition.

Anyone can sandblast something and paint it. That doesn't mean it's in good operating condition. So many people get hung up on what a steam locomotive looks like as opposed to what they should really be focused on; how good of mechanical condition it's in.

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