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Union Pacific L.A. Limited/Challenger

(continuing project)

 

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I had a stroke of luck a few weeks back and bumped into a lovely scratch-built paired window Pullman Standard Union Pacific 5300 series Streamliner chair car!

 

This is a car that is not an O scale go out and buy it kit or brass deal. I mean outside of Eddy Wichman and 401 Scale Models CNW cars this is a scratch only car (sadly) and I feel it is only going to get worse the further out we go away from the era. I do not know who built it but it is nearly Joe Fischer quality with full interior and expert finishing. The detailing is far beyond a 1940's era model. I personally really think it makes a perfect stand in for one of these very important cars in the pre-War L.A. Limited or Challenger consists.

 

On that note have a look at my OMI FEF-1 project that has been dragging along at a snails pace along with every project in my life these days. 

 

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Nice.  You forgot to label the Harrimans. Sunset? Or PSC?

 

On the Challenger - I have some of those trucks, and got a no-shrink master made from some very expensive dental stuff.  I sent it to Dennis, thinking some guy in Northern Ca. needed some.  I bet it still exists.  I seriously doubt these trucks will ever be made commercially again.

Erik,

Not sure where your other reply went?  

 

I'm also a big fan of the Little 800s.  I really like the differences between the first series from the 2/3.  The OMI model you posted is exactly what I like-single headlight, no wind wings, and a coal burner (early life cycle).

 

To clarify, I'm using a Weaver FEF-3 with an OMI correct tender and doing all the modifications.  I know it won't be dead perfect accurate, but the big goal of my project is to get some experience in working with brass, soldering, and all that stuff.  My goal is to take that knowledge and scratch build some UP steamers, specifically an early and late Bull Moose.  I'd love to have the PSC one, but it's out of the budget this year.

 

Hopefully Bob Stevenson feels better soon and can send out parts.  The important thing is he's ok first!  I'm also waiting on PSC to deliver a ton of detail parts.  When I start soldering them on, I'll post some pics or e-mail them.

 

This train is absolutely beautiful.  

 

bob2,

I remember you mentioning at one time you did side rods for an FEF and somebody was going to produce them.  I need a set of those.  Can you let me know who sells them?

 

Thanks 

 

 

Last edited by 86TA355SR
I don't know what happened to it. It's my iPhone likely.


Originally Posted by 86TA355SR:

       

Erik,

Not sure where your other reply went?  

 

I'm also a big fan of the Little 800s.  I really like the differences between the first series from the 2/3.  The OMI model you posted is exactly what I like-single headlight, no wind wings, and a coal burner (early life cycle).

 

To clarify, I'm using a Weaver FEF-3 with an OMI correct tender and doing all the modifications.  I know it won't be dead perfect accurate, but the big goal of my project is to get some experience in working with brass, soldering, and all that stuff.  My goal is to take that knowledge and scratch build some UP steamers, specifically an early and late Bull Moose.  I'd love to have the PSC one, but it's out of the budget this year.

 

Hopefully Bob Stevenson feels better soon and can send out parts.  The important thing is he's ok first!  I'm also waiting on PSC to deliver a ton of detail parts.  When I start soldering them on, I'll post some pics or e-mail them.

 

This train is absolutely beautiful.  

 

bob2,

I remember you mentioning at one time you did side rods for an FEF and somebody was going to produce them.  I need a set of those.  Can you let me know who sells them?

 

Thanks 

 

 

That's a nice model Bob

Originally Posted by bob2:

       

This is fairly crude, and was my very first attempt at seriously modifying a locomotive.  It is a Scale Craft/CLW in 17/64, with heavily modified boiler and cab.

 

The engine itself has fully functioning leaf springs and equalization bars.  The leaf springs are actually multiple layers of tempered bronze.

 

Hi Erik,

As coincidence would have it, I am going through back issues of train magazines prior to disposal.  I have happened across a brief article including scale drawings of the Challenger 30-seat chair cars in the 5331-5345 series and also the 5351-5365 series.

 

You may already have access to plans via Pullman-Standard catalogs or other sources, but I figured I would give you a heads up on this article.  It appears in the July 2000 issue.  

 

I don't have a use for my copy any longer.  If you like I could hand it off to you someday when you happen to be at Caboose Hobbies.

 

Regards,

Jim

Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
Hey Jim.. We should meet up anyway soon. I would like to see what your working on in 3D these days. Your 1/2 scale truck was amazing.

ChipR thanks for joining.

Erik, I agree we should meet up.  After my initial foray into the COSM realm back in June, I've missed all other meetings for various reasons.  I'd like to catch up on what's going on around town.  

 

There hasn't been much traction on the 3d printing side of things.  I've gotten pretty busy with some pesky "life issues" distractions since August.  I do have additional 3d modeling completed on that truck that includes all the brake rigging and side bearings, as well as significant refinements of the sideframe and bolster castings (they're now prototypically hollow castings rather than solid).  I haven't had a chance to get the additional parts printed and added to the assembly yet.

 

One thing I did manage was to model and print new radiator fans for a kitbash of an Atlas mp15dc into an sw1500.  I've opened up the front radiator section so that the fan is visible through the louvers. Implementation has kind of stalled out as I've gotten busy with the aforementioned distractions.  I need to get back to that project.

 

In a similar vein, I'm starting a Wire EDM class tonight where I will hopefully learn the ins and outs of this technology that is very prevalent in machine shops doing injection mold work.  I'm trying to get educated so I can start career/business making things, and maybe even O scale trains!

 

Anyway, enough blather.  Thanks to the tip from ChipR, I will take that MR issue over to Caboose Hobbies either this afternoon or tomorrow.  Get in touch, I think you have my email from previous correspondance.

 

Jim

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bob2 posted:

This is fairly crude, and was my very first attempt at seriously modifying a locomotive.  It is a Scale Craft/CLW in 17/64, with heavily modified boiler and cab.

 

The engine itself has fully functioning leaf springs and equalization bars.  The leaf springs are actually multiple layers of tempered bronze.

 

Bob:

Did you know the late Bob Penny at Citrus Empire Model Railroad Club in LA County? He worked at The Train Stop in San Dimas and told me about a gentleman who had built a fully-sprung/fully-equalized 17/64 FEF that ran beautifully even on uneven track. He said the build was done with [relatively] simple equipment (no CNC's, etc). This can't be a coincidence that I'm looking at a photo of a model that fits that unusual description.

No - only members I knew were George Barnes and Dick Bregler.  My locomotive has only run here.

These things are not unusual - I have a spare mechanism, and they are kind of neat.  To get all the levers in there, the frame is a tad long.  Charlie Schwarm was working on shorter frame pieces and levers way back when.  His name appears on the Scale Craft blueprints.

bob2 posted:

No - only members I knew were George Barnes and Dick Bregler.  My locomotive has only run here.

These things are not unusual - I have a spare mechanism, and they are kind of neat.  To get all the levers in there, the frame is a tad long.  Charlie Schwarm was working on shorter frame pieces and levers way back when.  His name appears on the Scale Craft blueprints.

Thanks.

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