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I believe the B&O used Dulux Gold for the stripes, which is more yellow than gold.

Rusty

Dulux Gold is the correct color for the later version of this paint scheme.  It is the same color PRR went to in 1952 when that road dropped gold leaf on the classic 5 stripe DGLE scheme.

Since all former Amtrak's F40PHs had dynamic brakes, this locomotive would also be a nice candidate in model form to fill in a modern freight consist.  I know CSX doesn't use their F40PHs that way, but nothing says it couldn't happen in the modeling world.   

@Csxcellent posted:

I thought csx shied away from heritage units. This is gorgeous! I hope the Lionel b&o sd70 looks half this good!

CSX started repainting their office cars in the B&O inspired scheme some time ago and I have to assume the entire train will get this scheme. Here's a video with a mix of the old scheme and new scheme cars.

Here's the Moonlight Dome in the new colors. I think it would have looked better with gold lettering and stripes rather than yellow. Anyhow it's a big improvement over old paint scheme.

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/766498/

Now how long will it be before Lionel (and the new MTH?) announce F40's and cars in the B&O scheme?

Ken

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@G3750 posted:

Seriously guys, whatever color it is, that's one butt-ugly locomotive.

There ain't enough lipstick...

George

I think it is a generational thing.  While I love the classic F units and especially the E6 and earlier design E-units, this is my generation's F-unit.  I love the tough looking lines of the F40PH.

They were new to me when they came to Amtrak and I was all of 6 years old, but they became memorable to me when they came to NJT and I was 13.  I'd watch them pulling matched strings of Comet II cars down to the shore and for once in my lifetime I regularly saw matching passenger trains.

My first HO passenger train on my home layout didn't have matching cars because prior to the F40s/Comet cars arriving as the shore trains rarely had matching cars.  I was just mimicking what I saw. 

To see the F40 closing on on 50 years of service in the not too distant future warms my heart.

Seeing an operating F or E unit too does as well too!

@GG1 4877 posted:

I think it is a generational thing.  While I love the classic F units and especially the E6 and earlier design E-units, this is my generation's F-unit.  I love the tough looking lines of the F40PH.

They were new to me when they came to Amtrak and I was all of 6 years old, but they became memorable to me when they came to NJT and I was 13.  I'd watch them pulling matched strings of Comet II cars down to the shore and for once in my lifetime I regularly saw matching passenger trains.

My first HO passenger train on my home layout didn't have matching cars because prior to the F40s/Comet cars arriving as the shore trains rarely had matching cars.  I was just mimicking what I saw.

To see the F40 closing on on 50 years of service in the not too distant future warms my heart.

Seeing an operating F or E unit too does as well too!

I'm in my twenties, so I definitely saw the f40phs, whether it be in person (If I remember correctly) or through 80s-90s movies. One of my first ho locos was a f40ph amtrack with silhouette passenger cars. While the E and F units are far more iconic (and beautiful) in real life and in the hobby, I appreciate both. Being alive when an engine was in service makes a train more relatable.

Canadian American Railway, the former Bangor & Aroostook in Maine, ran re-geared Amtrak F40PH’s in freight service during the late ‘90’s. Dan Sabin, who headed up CDAC at that time, later moved back to his native Iowa and purchased the Iowa Northern short line which still operates some former Amtrak F40PH’s in a Canadian Pacific inspired paint scheme.

Curt

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