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This will be "old hat" to most here but I am still feeling my way.

 

I recently acquired two reefers in CN colours. One from Atlas O. The other from Lionel.

To my surprise, the Lionel car actually has better detailing than the Atlas O Master car.

 

Specifics:

 

1/ The roof hatches have realistic rounded corners on the Lionel, AND locking notation. The Atlas hatches are featureless square slabs .

2/ Roof walkway are see through grill-like on the Lionel and simulated wood strips on the Atlas. That may be a prototype issue rather than lack of detail. Same with the brakeman's stand. See-through grill on the Lionel. Etched grid iron on the Atlas.

3/ The grab bars seem better on the Atlas although the Lionel car does have separately applied grab irons all around as evidenced by the paper slid behind them in the image.

4/ Lionel trucks are actually sprung. Atlas springs are cosmetic only.

5/ Reefer doors open on the Lionel. Not so on the Atlas.

 

Of course, putting Kadees on the Atlas will be far easier than on the Lionel car but I will have to examine future purchases carefully and not be quick to assume Atlas O Masters are inherently "superior" to Lionel cars.

 

Er . . . does this make me a "rivet counter?"

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The AtlasO and Lionel steel reefers are models of two different classes of Pacific Fruit Express reefers.  The AtlasO car is based on the prewar PFE R40-10 class which were built with wood roof walks and brake platforms.  The Lionel car models the postwar built PFE R40-23 class which were built with steel walks and brake platforms. The difference in materials reflects general industry practice as it evolved over time.  Other construction differences include the rib pattern and corners of the steel ends, and different style ice hatches.  Both are nicely done models (I have several of both).  The major disappointment I have with the Lionel reefer is the slightly oversized door hinges.  In considering the tradeoffs I'd rather have fixed doors than operating ones if that feature require oversized hinges - just my preference (that especially goes for smoke box door hinges on steam locomotives).

 

Ed Rappe 

In considering the tradeoffs I'd rather have fixed doors than operating ones if that feature require oversized hinges - just my preference (that especially goes for smoke box door hinges on steam locomotives).

 

What Ed said!  Don't gauge detail by doors that open/close.

 

When buying a piece of rolling stock the best thing to do is find a photo of the prototype and compare it to the models available.  Seaboard Air Line (and others) often bought cars and deviated from normal specs by requesting doors, roofs, and car ends that were not in the normal order scheme.

 

None of the makers are perfect, but all (Lionel, MTH, Weaver, Atlas, etc) have made some nice items.

 

Just be aware of the fantasy paint schemes, do the homework if you're modeling a particular RR.

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:

Besides, neither car is accurate for this class of CN reefer, particularly since both the Atlas and Lionel cars lack the 8 hatches on the roof:

 

 

Rusty

Well that pretty well covers THAT, doesn't it?

But a neat resin and brass etching kit is offered in S Scale by a bloke in Canada:

 

cn 209600

Rusty

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