Did LIONEL use the IVES / AMERICAN FLYER 4671 Tender Design with any of the LIONEL Standard Gauge Locomotives ? | O Gauge Railroading On Line Forum

OGRNormanOGR Forum Member

Hi,

AF 4696 Brass Piper Steam Loco with 4671 Tender

After LIONEL had purchased IVES,

did LIONEL use the IVES / AMERICAN FLYER 4671 Tender Design with any of the LIONEL Standard Gauge Locomotives ?

Thank you,

Norman

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bmoran4OGR Forum Member

The 384 tender is certainly similar, but I don't have either in hand to directly compare.

Nation Wide LinesOGR Forum Member

The 4671 tender was never referred to as an Ives tender.

American Flyer and Lionel purchased Ives jointly in1928 during the Ives bankruptcy. American Flyer did use the Ives 1134 boiler casting as its 4694 engine along with its matching standard gauge tender with Golden State plates on it. However, per the Greenberg's American Flyer Standard Gauge book (pages 32-33), this tender was never cataloged with a number.

The 4671 tender that you show in your picture was introduced by American Flyer in 1931, so Lionel would never have had the rights to use the 4671 tender in the prewar era.

NWL

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