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I have 2 fms, 1 postwar Lackawana and one modern era Southern.  The Southern has been converted to Tmcc.

I have two crossovers made from Ross 031 switches inside a mountain and tough to get to.  I have found that both FMs derail on the crossovers.  All of my steamers and my post war GG1 handle the crossovers smoothly.  I will be trying some other engines, but I think finding a fix for the FMs might tell me what other engines might have problems.  A friend told me that years ago he experienced a similar problem with FMS on super O switches.  The blind wheels on each truck were derailing on the switches. He said he thought someone else had tried grinding the blind wheels down to make them narrower.  Don,t know whether that worked.  My friend suggests removing the blind wheels from the engine, leaving a 4 wheel truck similar to a postwar F3.  By the way, My post war NYC f3AAs go through the crossovers fine.

    Before starting surgery, thought I would ask for experiences and solutions form the board.

          Thanks in advance1  Bob Taylor.

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I had to look at mine to see what the issue could be.

I hadn't noticed the extra height of the SO turnouts guiderails before.

I think a few, various, engines are riding up it a bit here too.

No big issues. Just a slight "bump" I had attributed to the need to re-ramp some frog, or roller path, wear. I'll need to look closer at mine too.

  

  I've never done it, or heard/seen about it being done, but I'm thinking simply shaving those guides down might be the "catch all" answer.

  Is it high there, to compensate for the upward push of the anti-derail tabs? That's the only "negative" thought* I have. Ie "Will a light car (unloaded, shorty plastic flatcar) hop off there if its trimmed?" They do rise, and ride over the anti-derail tabs, instead of through them on occasion.

 

 

Looking at them, my knee jerk reaction was to say the extra height was there for the taller rail code of rounded tubular .

 

Maybe it was initially designed with normal tubular rail in place, till the proto arrived,

and those rails were a "Monday morning miss" they didn't think about. 

 

*Yep, time to watch that junction a little closer  (thank for asking this too)

 

 

I had the same problem with FM Trainmasters on Super O switches. The problem can be solved by raising the blind wheel axle on both trucks so that the blind wheels do not get caught on anything. I cut washers in half and glued them on the inside of the truck to raise the axle by about 1/8".

I had a problem like Alan describes with a different locomotive.  The Lionel Legacy Lionmaster PRR T1 Duplex would derail on Atlas switches.  One of the front facing rollers would jam in the switch and derail the locomotive.  Occasionally, it would bend the roller in the process.  I finally removed that roller and used a one-wire tether to join the tender rollers with the locomotive rollers.  No more derailments and it runs fine.

 

I've seen several engines where the roller gets tangled up with the switches and causes issues.  As Alan says, the roller dropping down may be the issue.

 

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