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 Hello G, my self upgraded PS3 Allegheny bit the dust good this time. Same one that the smoke fet failed on last time.

She just got to a curve as she was pulling a large train for some time with the smoke on and she slammed to a stop. Totally dead. Tripped the breakers. Well I swear I heard the smoke unit making a noise but she was on the far side of the room when I tried adding power.

 On the bench, she tried to run the smoke fan and nothing else. The smoke unit sounded bad, more like a buzz? This was maybe 2 months ago? Didn't trip the Z1000 on the bench. I never tested for amp draw. I was disgusted that it failed that session and put her on the shelf. It seems like the smoke draw is too much? Not a short that I ever found but again?

Today just connecting the tender only, it's dead. One section of the board seems to get warm to the touch. Bottom Left side of picture. I don't smell anything bad on this board but it's dead with no sound. I could test for motor control again but there was none last time I checked. Remember that this has the boiler board up in the engine.

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I have another PS3 spare set-up but I'm not crazy enough to risk it. I have to find what took this board out first. I want to guess the PS3 wireless tether may have touched the rear most axle. There's a small clear plastic protector but at that moment of failure it had spun out of position. I don't see any signs of arcing there. Obviously I need to find the short or where the excess draw comes from. It's tuff when it's intermittent. I run with bricks so I only see things when they trip.

 I wonder if there's no short if an older PS2 board set might be stronger? This engine has a large motor, it's an old first MTH version, and with the smoke on I think it pushes the board set?

I should have ran it with the Z4000 to see the actual draw but I can't now.

Smoke unit fan is 12.7 ohms runs on 3 volts

smoke unit resistors = 8.4 ohms cold

main drive motor spins good runs on 3 volts

 no short found?

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I don't think the motor would draw too much current to hurt the board. I just did a PS3 upgrade on a MTH Premier Blue Goose Hudson that uses the same motor as your Allegheny, a Pittman 9434. The PS2 and PS3 boards are designed to work fine with either Pittman motors or whatever MTH is using now (Anyone know what Premier steam has switched to now that MTH no longer uses Pittman motors?). Any shorts in the wiring leading to the smoke unit? With it being an articulated and the boiler swinging around up front I'd check there for shorts/pinched wires if there is nothing like that in/under the tender. 

Well Joe the first thing I would do is take the boiler board out and inspect it for burn marks! also if you  have a mth  asc tech near where u live. The main ps 3 board and the boiler board and have them test your 2 boards in there ps 3 test fixture. then you'll know for sure if both boards are bad or only boiler board. Joe the boiler board has FET'S on it which can cause nothing to work motor fet smoke fet n fan motor fet !

while you have it part you can inspect and ohm out the harness and check for shorts. especially smoke unit short against case to ground, smoke resister to ground Etc!

did you ever hook up to z4000 so you can read what current draws it shows on power up. you mentioned tether possible short, I would really look that over  really good and test for shorts or very low ohms to ground! if I remember correctly the boards usually draw about .3 amp on power up but not yet started up!

Alan

If the tether touched chassis that would do it.  Since the tender is dead, that would have nothing to do with motor, as the Boiler board FET or Relay runs that.  As stated, the Boiler board can handle those motors.  PS-3 no likey the AC.  But PS-2 didn't either.  Not sure of buzz on smoke. Whine on a bad fan motor, but usually buzz is related to sound or relay type noises.  G

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