I do get the passion, but I feel very sorry for these guys. Nothing can compare to peering out the window of the first car either above or below ground like we could do for so many years after the war. And although the IRTs were always longitudinal back to the wall, the postwar BMT/IND cars still had the occasional transverse seats perpendicular to the window where you could actually see where you were. And compare the comfort of those wonderful cane and then padded seats to the hard plastic of the past several decades. But as JFK said in his very last speech in Fort Worth, "All of us would like to live as we used to, but history will not allow it." Somehow that gives me no comfort.