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Hi Guys, so I just recently just picked these up near Bouckville NY and was wondering if anyone could tell me what kind of signals these are and what they indicate along the right of way? 

From what I understand the one on the right is an O&W and was found along one of the long gone right of ways near Bouckville.

I plan on restoring the one on the left side, striping the old rust and giving her a fresh paint job but I'm honestly not sure what color these where? Any info and or pictures on these would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

John 

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Hot Water posted:

Those are indicators for snow plows/flangers to "raise the flanger blade" as a road crossing, bridge, or turnout is ahead, which could damage both the flanger blade, and the device in the track.

Thanks Hot Water, is there a name for these indicators by chance? I'm trying to find more information on them for possibly restoring the one on the left. Thanks for your info though. 

 

John

Dave_C posted:

 I have a few on my layout. They were made by Berkshire Valley. A nice piece of detail to the roadway. I loosely model the Boston & Albany. This is how they painted theirs. They had to stand out in the snow. I'm guessing to all white or all black they may not be noticed. That's why they used a combination of both.

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Thanks Dave for the info.

 

John

Hot Water posted:

Those are indicators for snow plows/flangers to "raise the flanger blade" as a road crossing, bridge, or turnout is ahead, which could damage both the flanger blade, and the device in the track.

Nope... These signs tell the snow plow foreman to bring in the wing of the plow approaching a bridge or trestle. The sign to raise the nose of the plow or flanger is a little different.... It almost looks like a licence plate painted black  with a large white dot at each end.  I suppose there are different versions for different railroads.

Here's a pic of both...flanger sign   this would tell the plow foreman to bring in both wings and raise the nose.

 

 

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Gregg posted:
Hot Water posted:

Those are indicators for snow plows/flangers to "raise the flanger blade" as a road crossing, bridge, or turnout is ahead, which could damage both the flanger blade, and the device in the track.

Nope... These signs tell the snow plow foreman to bring in the wing of the plow approaching a bridge or trestle. The sign to raise the nose of the plow or flanger is a little different.... It almost looks like a licence plate painted white with a large black dot at each end.  I suppose there are different versions for different railroads.

So,,,,,that's the way it is in Canada. How about in the U.S.? My description, above, is for most of the U.S. Railroads. 

 

 

Hot Water posted:
Gregg posted:
Hot Water posted:

Those are indicators for snow plows/flangers to "raise the flanger blade" as a road crossing, bridge, or turnout is ahead, which could damage both the flanger blade, and the device in the track.

Nope... These signs tell the snow plow foreman to bring in the wing of the plow approaching a bridge or trestle. The sign to raise the nose of the plow or flanger is a little different.... It almost looks like a licence plate painted white with a large black dot at each end.  I suppose there are different versions for different railroads.

So,,,,,that's the way it is in Canada. How about in the U.S.? My description, above, is for most of the U.S. Railroads. 

 

 

Well CN & CP are  both now North American Railways.   How many snow plows have you been on. A Russell plow at 50 or 60 per on  the main line can make for an exciting trip. It seems there are less and less flanger signs around .

I don't know and  couldn't care less.  What road way signs are you talking about? I also believe the flanger  signs are not  maintained  much today. Once they fall over they're probably not replaced. IMHO.

 From my original post .....   I suppose there are different versions for different railroads.

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Here is a sign I got out of the scrap pile on the ONR last year. sorry if it is sideways I could not grab the edited version. I do see mostly round holes or dots Identifying the crossings. reflective white on black background to contrast with the snow.  I would see several variants while traveling, what I have seen the most. Sign post is always on the right side of the rail. There is a left and right flag on top forming a "V" to instruct the operator on which wing to pull in.  Left side pull in the left plow for the obstruction on the left ahead such as a rock cut. No need to pull everything in.  

see all three signs pull everything in as noted above, for a bridge or crossing.

I got to ride with a Jordan Spreader operator last year in Suie St. Marie last year on the G&W Huron line. He had run the machine for over twenty years. Everyone else though he was completely nuts to touch such a beast with all the loco's shoving behind him. He said they try not to take it out to much, they ran engines hourly to keep things clear. He would run it in the yard and clear 3 tracks at a time no problem.

 

 

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