How Many Purchased New Big Boy?

I got the 4018 to go along with the original 4014! Love the sound of the 4018, may have to had some speakers to the 4014!

I thought all of these new releases had the same quantity of speakers (3); how could the sound be different?

Original Legacy BB had only 1 speaker in the tender if I'm not mistaken. Vision line has 3 speakers 2 in the tender and 1 in the engine. Sounds sooo much better than the original version IMO.

OK, back to the OP inquiry/poll. Mark down one more 4014. 

P.S. Up to this point I make the total close to 50.

As many of you know by now, I purchased No. 4006 (St Louis Museum of Transportation), and it should arrive tomorrow via UPS at Lionel, Concord NC, for repair. Hopefully, I will have it back in a few days  and I can hardly wait to run it again   

Alex

I bought the 4014.  I'm interested in knowing about the various appliances that are on the prototype.  It doesn't particularly bother me that not everything is authentic on my model.  Maybe all the particulars about the 4014 would be better discussed on the real train forum, but I, for one, am interested.

John I felt the same way but I thought it only fair that I check with the passengers on the train behind the flawed BigBoy.

Yosemite Sam and the Sheriff are fine with it... Santa and Mrs. Claus were too busy chasing each other and didn't notice... the man in the milk car said he's inside most of the time... I did get one complaint.. the Giraffes said the smoke from the whistle steam was getting in their eyes... I guess you can't please everybody!

4014...picked up from Paul at Catoctin Mtn Trains on Friday but still in box....too busy with work (ok, on a short break so I am skimming the Forum )

I got both the 4012 & 4014. my first BB's.

How many DIDN'T buy a BB  ???

Nope.  Glad to see you're not either, but based on some rather obvious sarcastic replies to Jack's (Hot Water) post about the blowdown effect not being accurate it would seem they are.

Please elaborate; what is not correct about it.

Like my engines to be as prototypically correct as possible; $2,000.00 is not a "toy" in my opinion.

Me. Since I'm an eastern road, a BB won't make the tunnel bores. Re-holing them isn't feasible.

OK, the Wilson Blowdown Separator System, has a "turbine housing" mounted on the top, just forward of the cab. There are two remote valves on either side of the firebox, mounted down low (mud ring area). Instead of those remote operated blown down valves simply shooting the boiler water horizontally out the side, the water is piped upwards towards, and into the base of that large "turbine housing". When either the Engineer or Fireman opens his respective "mud ring blown down valve", the VERY hot and dirty boiler water enters the inside of that "turbine housing", and at that point the hot boiler water is exposed to atmospheric pressure, and rapidly turns to steam and exits vertically out of the center of the round "turbine housing", while the remaining dirty water is "spun" to the outer portion of the inside of the "turbine housing". The remaining dirty liquid is subsequently piped downward to an exit chute, located directly under the cab on the Engineer's side.

When using the Wilson system, the Engineer can simply look downward and watch the condition of the sludge that is exiting the discharge chute, down onto the ballast. If the discharge gradually turns to cleaner looking water, the "sludge removal" process can then be ended. The Engineer will also indicate to his Fireman to continue to operate his blowdown valve until both sides of the firebox mud ring has been "cleaned out".

Depending on the quality of the water used in whatever part of the country that water has been taken on (filling the tender), the blowdown or "sludge remover" was used VERY regularly.

In conclusion, the Wilson Blowdown System would have a visible steam exhaust at two locations: 1) from the round "turbine housing" on the top, forward of the cab, and 2) fro the sludge discharge chute located below the cab on the Engineer's side. Obviously this arrangement would be pretty difficult to accomplish on a model steam locomotive.

Thanks for the explanation although I don't have or will ever have a BB. Nice to know.

Didn't the VL Challengers have that??

Don't think so, as the one I witnessed in operation didn't seem to "blow smoke" out of the top, forward of the cab either.

Very interesting information about the Wilson Blowdown Separator System.  Thanks for taking the time to explain.

So, it as a centrifugal separator used on boiler water. What would the advantage be?? Did it save water ?? Just curious.

No, blowing down a locomotive boiler is definitely NOT supposed to "save water". The Wilson System was design so that the Engineer could actually see how dirty the sludge discharge was, and also how the discharge "cleaned up" as blowing down continued. Many railroads opted for the Wilson system, however some roads simply blew the remote operated valves directly out the side into adjacent scenery as they traveled down the road.

The Southern Pacific installed large "mufflers" on either side, down by the trailing truck, and simply blew the dirty boiler water down on the ballast while running. If one of the blowdowns was opened while standing, a substantial size long hole was promptly dug into the ground.

I just received mine today.  I opened it up and oiled the tender wheels first set that on the tracks.  I then unwrapped the BigBoy.  I noticed that the front boiler hatch was off.  On further inspection the tabs on the side of the hatch were opened.  Someone never put hatch into the tabs and squeezed them shut.  I also saw one of the nubs on the hatch was off.  I placed it into the tabs and squeezed them shut with needle nose pliers.  It works but really wasn't to happy with QC. They probably placed on boiler front with magnetic catch and forgot to close tabs.  Oh well hope it doesn't come off.  I will let Lionel know about this at YORK.  Other then that lubed and oiled BB and ran it through its paces and WOW what a neat piece of engineering.  Love the slow synchronized smoke output in the stacks.  One question on the blowdown, is there lots o smoke emitted or just a light stream?  Can I get more but putting it on high output? 

Just received 4018 today, what a fascinating locomotive.

Rick

Got the 4012 today and don't see any problems.

Chris

My Blowdown Effect. Low smoke setting. 

I would say that looks pretty good Marty on the low setting. 

When we ran the Big Boy on portions of the North Penn O-Gaugers club layout that could handle it (i.e., a few tunnel portals didn't allow sufficient clearance), I noticed the blow-down effect was very good... but SEEING it depended largely on the background.  Even in Marty's video, you can see the effect better against the black of the locomotive, but it's difficult to see against the green ground-cover.  Just sayin'.

David

I have to follow a diet.

1 of #4012

This is Christmas, birthday, and anniversary gifts .... and monthly spending money ... all rolled into one. And, then some. My wife thinks I'm nuts. But, this thing is just too cool!

Jumping into "O" with both feet! Lol.

If it counts, I know 2 people who bought the VL BB who are not on OGR.

One 4014 and one 4012.   Both are running great!    I was tempted but I saved my pennies for the daylight Cab Forward..

Blecch!  Get the Big Boy or the non-Daylight version so there would be one less owner that's tarnishing the Cab Forward's legacy.