Is It Time For a Vision Line Dreyfuss Hudson?

I am also a Hudson fan, but would not be interested in a VL Dreyfuss Hudson.

100% in for one. Would also be fine with a standard Legacy version. I bought a Premier Dreyfuss for the sole purpose of converting it to work on my Legacy layout. It’s a shelf queen.  I’ve assumed I’ll never see a Lionel version. I’ve set a deadline of 2022 or else I’ll send the Premier version to someone to convert. 

Buy a TMCC version and send it to Bruk. You will get a better engine. Better chassis, motor, and tighter tolerances plus you will be guaranteed 4 chuffs. No surprises like the buyers of the Vision J3s got.

Pete 

This is very true, I have done two conversions now, (just wrapped one up for Timmy Tarsh) If you send me your old Scale Lionel TMCC Dreyfus and you’ll get Legacy and whistle steam! Email me if interested. Here is my post about the first one I did.  

https://ogrforum.com/...egacy-upgrade?page=1

Bruk, do you gut it to the point you can make it work from a PS2 version or do I need to find the TMCC version?

@locolawyer posted:

 

So the question becomes, is it time for Lionel to issue a Vision Line Dreyfuss Hudson in the near future, and would you buy one? My answer to both questions is yes.

Thanks for reading     

Erol Gurcan

My answer would be yes and yes. I would add that it should be brought out with the 21 inch cars in a color to match the color  last Hudson. I think there are buyers of the 21 inch cars for both the old and new Hudson should Lionel decide to make one.

Charlie

Echoing what Pete mentioned, the 28084 Dreyfus shares its mechanicals with 28072 & 38041 ....mechanically speaking, these are some of the best Hudsons Lionel ever produced......Pittman power, bolt on drivers, and robust parts.......it’s a drivetrain that is hard to to top, and harder to beat.....I’d say rather than holding your breath, send your TMCC Dreyfuss to Bruk for his professional touch and you’ll be happy as a clam....be interesting if Bruk would consider doing the Premier ones,.....I can’t speak for Bruk, but I can’t see why it wouldn’t be possible.....the Premier scale Hudsons are well built machines as well, but again, that’s up to him.....Bruk is a talented fella for sure....

Pat

@Rider Sandman posted:

Bruk, do you gut it to the point you can make it work from a PS2 version or do I need to find the TMCC version?

I think....

I can probably get away with a Premier. Id have to see what the shell looks like off. The design between the Lionel and MTH are almost identical from what I gathered. 

@Bruk posted:

I think....

I can probably get away with a Premier. Id have to see what the shell looks like off. The design between the Lionel and MTH are almost identical from what I gathered. 

From what you’d be looking at Bruk, the chassis designs are pretty close,...obviously the MTH lacks the mechanical cam, but you don’t use that anyways...no??....you may have to add pickups to the tender, if needed, but that’s doable too.....

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

From what you’d be looking at Bruk, the chassis designs are pretty close,...obviously the MTH lacks the mechanical cam, but you don’t use that anyways...no??....you may have to add pickups to the tender, if needed, but that’s doable too.....

Pat

No cam, no problem. Legacy does not use a Cam to trigger chuff. Its similar to MTH PS2/3 which counts the rotation of the flywheel. Everything is based of the gear ratio. If anything I can reuse the existing harness for serial data and pick up to the tender electronics.  

I don’t have an issue adding LEGACY to a MTH engine. I’m actually working on a personal project on the side “in secret” to convert a Premier Steamer. Its mainly to upset my coworker at Eastside since he is pro MTH and DCS. 🙄 But more on that at a later time. A thread will be started, when the time is right. 

I had a Lionel Dreyfus Hudson which I sold to forum member at a reasonable price. Not many for sale here or on the bay which had high prices for the one or two there. It retailed for $999.99 back in 2002-2003? and Charlie Ro sold them at York for $625 to sell them out a year afterwards. 
Nice piece, liked it a lot but time to sell a few pieces here and there as I have accumulated way too much over the years. 

Besides, I have about 5 or 6 scale Hudsons to enjoy.

I would buy one - matching 21" cars too

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