Anyone ever see an Ives PowerHouse for sale ?
Not the kind of item you come across in the South
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MTH made one. Originals would be Lionel with Ives badge. They are rare anywhere.
F&G RY posted:MTH made one. Originals would be Lionel with Ives badges. They are rare anywhere.
Not necessarily. Ives made their own back in early years.
A cutie!
Ives 1122 thats the one I am looking for. Ever see one for sale?
did someone say rare? ...
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overlandflyer posted:did someone say rare? ...
woof!
The original Ives 201 power house (not the re-badged Lionel 435/436) has not been reproduced.
And sure, they come up for sale. I got my 1912 version on a table in the blue hall at York a few years back. In good shape they are a scarce, high-ticket item, so it's not surprising I have seen more of them in sales by the auction houses like Stout or Maurer. The chimney is in several parts, including the cast iron top, some or all of which are often missing. Mine has its wood base with the coil transformer mounted on it inside.
david
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Southern Crescent 2 posted:Ives 1122 thats the one I am looking for. Ever see one for sale?
Like Hojack,
I had to go east to find mine. York is a great place to look for one. They typically sell fast and are usually priced pretty strong.
Has anyone ever found pictures or digital files that could be printed on card-stock? I have always wanted one, but card-stock is more doable with my budget nowadays.
I need a chimney and roof parts for a Ives power house. If anyone had a lead, let me know. Greatly appreciated!
One just sold at Stout for $1050. I saved the pictures and plan to photoshop them so I can print one on Photo Paper to simulate the litho. I haven’t decided whether the station will be wood, tin or card stock. The chimney will probably be wood.
George
Creativity can sometimes triumph over scarcity!
Time for an update...as I have have no talent in making things. Through members of the Ives Train Society, I found a fellow who was able to fabricate a new chimney and roof assembly in tin.
His paint work on both is so well done it’s hard to differentiate from lithography.
it wasn’t cheap, but well worth it to be able to put this unique Ives piece back together after so many years.
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Bill Clay posted:
Time for an update...as I have have no talent in making things. Through members of the Ives Train Society, I found a fellow who was able to fabricate a new chimney and roof assembly in tin.
His paint work on both is so well done it’s hard to differentiate from lithography.
it wasn’t cheap, but well worth it to be able to put this unique Ives piece back together after so many years.
That's wonderful Bill! Congrats!
George
VERY NICE! Again, creativity can make the difference! ☺
Excuse the tangent hijack, but I feel I have the crowd for this. So before it fades.... Does anyone happen to have a Jefferson Powerhouse to show off? I've only seen two, neither very complete. Hardboard and redbrick paper litho, "on" light over the door. Sheet metal throttle just like the little whistle shack/powerhouses. But hidden better by bushes.
I thought he door light being on when unit power was on was subtle genius as a kid.
Saw that another Ives powerhouse sold yesterday for $1200. Plus a 25 percent buyers fee! This was from Bertoia’s in Vineland NJ. Looked to be a 200 as I didn’t see any terminals on it. Just made for batteries. Also it had a replacement smoke stack and it had the vertical shingle pattern on its roof. Hope it found a good home.
Bill or someone who has one, could you measure the dimensions of yours and post here? I don't know what size to print this. I can't find anything on the Ives Train Society site or in Greenberg or in any auction.
Thank you!
George
Hi George, Here’s the measurements of my Ives 201 powerhouse...
lenght 9 1/4”, x 6 1/2” wide, x 6 1/2” tall. Distance from bottom too peak of roof is 9”. Roof angle is 45 degrees. Smoke stack is 9 3/4” tall. It sits on a base which measures 2 1/2” long, 1 1/2” deep, by 3 1/2” tall.
Hope this helps, any other info needed, let me know.
Thank you Bill!
George, sent you mail.
Tinplatetraincrazy posted:George, sent you mail.
Got it and sent you a reply.
I want to take my time with this project to get it right. Will keep folks updated on this thread. I hope to make some significant progress over the holidays.
George
I finished editing the photos and mocked them up in drafts this weekend.
I used these to check the fit and size. I will also use them as templates to cut the tin.
I bought some tin sheet at Menards. This is a large sheet for drip pans. The gauge is lighter than some of the ductwork sheets.
Next step is to print the photos on photo paper cut them and spray them with fixit.
George
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I did this on a PC without the benefit of Photoshop. I edited pictures in Paint 3D but they are sized and cropped in MS Powerpoint. I find that it is much easier to size the photos and print them correctly from PowerPoint.
George
Please keep us posted on your most excellent project! ☺
George, looks great! Off to a fantastic start! I see you chose the later version with the vertical shingle pattern! Horizontal or vertical looks great. Trickel has the casting for the chimney for the finishing touch. Please keep us posted here!
George, this seems like a cool project!
If you need anything done in Photoshop I have experience doing numerous reproduction prints for different restorations.
Bill Clay posted:George, looks great! Off to a fantastic start! I see you chose the later version with the vertical shingle pattern! Horizontal or vertical looks great. Trickel has the casting for the chimney for the finishing touch. Please keep us posted here!
Good to know on the chimney. I didn't see it in his catalog. Is this the top cap?
Thanks,
George
Hi George, yes he has the chimney top or cap. It isn’t showing in his catalog but should be available. Send him a email.
Hey George! Are those files available?
They’ll be available when I finish.
George
Great job George! Looks like a exceedingly nice copy of the original! Right down to the wood base like Ives made it. Please keep us posted on progress.
George,
Nice job. You should be happy how it turned out. What were you using for glue?
Tom
I’m using super glue. The photos need to be sealed with fix-it or a small amount of residue will damage the photo.
George
Looks great. Can't wait to see it finished!
Here is a Google Drive link to the files I used. Ives Powerhouse Folder
The PowerPoint has all of the files sized and ready to print on slides. I used HP Premium Plus Photo Paper, an HP inkjet printer, and Krylon Preserve It Gloss Spray. I printed the slides on the best quality setting with the printer set to Premium Plus paper and I used the borderless printing setting.
The chimney was a challenge. I would do it over, but I only have so much time to work on projects like these. I found a piece of heavy pipe that I cut to fit in the bottom of the chimney so it wouldn't fall over. I may still add a smoke unit, but the cotton batting works pretty well.
Merry Christmas!
George
