K-Line PRR Fleet of Modernism Passenger Cars

FA's don't pull passenger cars  PA's do   F for freight P for passenger   

The FA-2s by MTH are really nice. I have a couple RailKings in PS2 and they run well and just feel really solid. You wouldn't be disappointed. The Brunswick green with gold stripes is one of my favorite paint schemes. The Tuscan might be too much Tuscan with all the cars being the same color. Just my opinion

I'm not sure what K-Line "Fleet" passenger cars you are referring to. I have the "semi-scale" set called the "Streamliners" series. These are unlike most other "semi-scale" passenger cars in that they are not only shortened, but lowered as well. This results in making them look less toy-like, but they do look a bit small in back of a full-sized engine. My Lionel postwar Turbine engine is a perfect match-up for both size, and the fact that the "fleet of modernism" (1938-48) cars are from the same RR (PRR) and time frame.

I have the semi-scale K-Line Fleet of Modernism and run them behind my semi-scale GG1s.  I think the proportions are good.

https://youtu.be/Jk8NN1yikTo

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I have a set of tuscan color K-Line F-7 ABBA's pulling my PRR Fleet of Modernism. They could pull 30 cars if I had that many available.

bluelinec4 posted:

FA's don't pull passenger cars  PA's do   F for freight P for passenger   

Interesting point. I'm not a scale guy so I don't adhere purely to standards but you're definitely right on that one. I've always wondered why so many passenger sets have been made and sold with FAs rather than PAs.  My guess is that the FA was the one skinnied down for O27 operators in the PW era so it got marketed with both freight and passenger sets.  

Dan Padova posted:

I have the semi-scale K-Line Fleet of Modernism and run them behind my semi-scale GG1s.  I think the proportions are good.

https://youtu.be/Jk8NN1yikTo

https://youtu.be/Pr3zgdBpkvA

Thanks. I really like the looks of your silver GG1 with the tuscan cars. I have a tuscan GG1 and thought it would look too plain with these. I run it with silver streamliners sort of like the Congressional set.

I'm going to look for a silver GG1 with TMCC or PS2/3. 

I like this set also and have used it on my home layout.

I use the Lionel Century Club GG1 and I think it looks very nice.

Charlie

I regret that K-Line did not do this scheme in their 21" scale cars. I would have bought the complete train if they had even though I only was buying observations; with the exception of a NH coach and diner that had been two-railed and matched my two-railed K-Line EP-5.

PRRMP54 posted:

I regret that K-Line did not do this scheme in their 21" scale cars. 

I also have a set of MTH RailKing semi-scale "Fleet" cars. These have lighted interiors. These are about 15" long compared with the 13" K-Line.

Joe Hohmann posted:

PRRMP54 posted:

I regret that K-Line did not do this scheme in their 21" scale cars. 

I also have a set of MTH RailKing semi-scale "Fleet" cars. These have lighted interiors. These are about 15" long compared with the 13" K-Line.

I don't consider those semi-scale.  But that's me.  I thought only the typical post-war inspired passenger cars were considered semi-scale.  

I run the K-Line 15" FOM set behind the Brunswick Green K-Line Collector Club GG-1 and think they look great together. 

Dan Padova posted:

Joe

I also have a set of MTH RailKing semi-scale "Fleet" cars. These have lighted interiors. These are about 15" long compared with the 13" K-Line.

I don't consider those semi-scale.  But that's me.  I thought only the typical post-war inspired passenger cars were considered semi-scale.  

Well, if 21" is "scale", what would you call 15"?

raising4daughters posted:

bluelinec4 posted:

FA's don't pull passenger cars  PA's do   F for freight P for passenger   

Interesting point. I'm not a scale guy so I don't adhere purely to standards but you're definitely right on that one. I've always wondered why so many passenger sets have been made and sold with FAs rather than PAs.  My guess is that the FA was the one skinnied down for O27 operators in the PW era so it got marketed with both freight and passenger sets.  

Alco made FP models of the diesel. These were passenger locos. Napa Valley Wine train still uses them along with others. Don

FA-2. I'll warrant

Yes, I think they were all made in Canada. Don

Farmer_Bill posted:

I run the K-Line 15" FOM set behind the Brunswick Green K-Line Collector Club GG-1 and think they look great together. 

I also run my K-Line 15" FOM's behind my GG1's but more so w/ the Lionel Lionmaster T1.  Any Raymond Loewy designed loco should be appropriate, but so would anything you personally like to pair; it's your railroad.

There was a brief discussion of the FOM on CT.

I have the K-Line 15" FOM set but also the accompanying set, I think it was City of St Louis. Both are beautiful cars, I particularly like the square ended observation on the St Louis set.

To my eye these are scale in cross section, just are shortened. Operationally they are fun because they make it easier to run long trains... combine both the sets mentioned above and you have 14 or 15 cars.

Jan

I use Lionel Legacy Neil Young Signature Pennsylvania ABBA F3’s pulling an 8 car set. The K-line and Lionel cars are basically the same. 

Mike

PS: keep an eye on the For Sale Forum for this set. It’s available. 

I pull my K-Line FOM’s with an MTH Pennsy Torpedo as shown in the attached photo.    I believe the prototype cars were designed to match this loco.  The Torpedo is the “PS-1” version.  MTH also made it in PS-2.  Plus Lionel and K-Line had versions but IMO this one looks the best.

Bill

   I have the 13" Broadway Limited / Fleet of Modernism cars as well as the matching Tuscan K-line GG-1.   Great looking set, and you cant forget the nice window shades and figure silhouettes.

  It's  definitely not 1:48, so yeah; semi-scale. Maybe 3/16th", 7/32cd", or 17/64th" scale might be more correct ?  One thing I found about these cars was all the wire was corroding INSIDE the plastic insulation. I replaced it all, no biggie.  Oh, and no Sakai 90° track crossings... the small dia roller can fall into a gap at the diamond and pole vault the cars 😱

I pull my FOM with the KLine K4 Torpedo With added ERR cruise and sound. The scale works. Have 9 cars and looking for more. 

Joe Hohmann posted:

PRRMP54 posted:

I regret that K-Line did not do this scheme in their 21" scale cars. 

I also have a set of MTH RailKing semi-scale "Fleet" cars. These have lighted interiors. These are about 15" long compared with the 13" K-Line.

That's correct. K-Line didn't do the set in 21" because Weaver models had done a seven car 21" set for the market earlier.... Not to mention the paint scheme is more costly to paint and print than regular schemes.

I am certain that if K-Line didn't go under, we would have seen a set. 

What is upsetting to me is Golden Gate Depot released a 21" Heavyweight sleeper in F.O.M. a couple of years ago. Thaat car was the First to sell out in the offering. I begged Scott Mann to offer in this upcoming rerun of  heavyweight obs, rpo, dinner, and baggage in the F.O.M. scheme but alas it was to no avail!

HiramO posted:

I have the K-Line 15" FOM set but also the accompanying set, I think it was City of St Louis. Both are beautiful cars, I particularly like the square ended observation on the St Louis set.

 

In "real life" the "fleet" graphics disappeared when PRR went to the square end obs in 1948.

in 1948.

Following along Joe's suggestions, I'm now leaning away from the F units and GG-1s (since I have a set of each already) and leaning toward an S-2 Turbine.  Been looking for an excuse to buy an Imperial Rail King steam engine, and now I've got one. These look to be arriving at an LHS near me next month.  https://mthtrains.com/30-1786-1

• I made a typo above and will change it. Mine are 13", about the same length as the semi-scale GG-1.