Layout Printing Service

I wondered the same thing Alex, I guess everyone's "budget" is different.

i ,too received an email....i wonder how they get our addresses?...

Jim Berger posted:

i ,too received an email....i wonder how they get our addresses?...

Through OGR.

Perhaps the OGR people could chime in?  Their logos and name are all over the e-mail I received.

in fact at the bottom it says "Sent by info@ogaugerr.com".

Wow, way beyond my budget. I think I will stick with my tried and true old pencil, compass, and ruler. I can use the savings to buy track and roadbed.

They got our addresses from the OGR forum/and or subscription list. Look at the OGR logo on the email ad.

Jeff

Yes, we all got that email.

I'm very curious about the service, just because I would love to have a digitized drawing of my layout. All of my design is complete and my track is down, but a paper plan would still come in handy.

I guess I don't mind OGR sending out an email with an advertisement on behalf of business, it just part of the price of belonging to the board.
IMHO, that is very different than letting a business have our contact information.

It's been a long time since I designed a layout. The last time, I used graph paper, a ruler, compass, and a pencil.

Jim Berger posted:

i ,too received an email....i wonder how they get our addresses?...

I got the email and see the OGR logo in the corner so assume OGR "blasted" this out to all members.  Don't mind that, as makes me aware of new products or services.  Of course if OGR does it day in and day out, thats another matter.

Yep $750 can go a long way in my layout.  I will stick to my RR Track v4 layout planner.  Everything fit within +/-0.25 inch which was expected as track will not be perfectly curved or length like RRTrack pieces.   Besides once they have printed it, no changes possible on it, whereas I could keep fiddling with layout on RRTrack until it was "perfect" (what ever that means.), and could change layout mid stream if inspiration hit and could see if brilliant idea would fit before laying track.

Elliot, I would be happy to make a print for you.  I have a large format plotter that I use for engineering drawings.  I can do up to 36-inches wide by any length.  Just would ask for postage costs.  I Have been following your layout and have gotten a lot of great tips. 

Thanks Mike, I appreciate the offer. My problem is I don't have a digital plan to be printed. That's my big interest with this company.

Big_Boy_4005 posted:

Yes, we all got that email.

I'm very curious about the service, just because I would love to have a digitized drawing of my layout. All of my design is complete and my track is down, but a paper plan would still come in handy.

Elliot, if a 10x10 layout print is $750, yours would probably be about $1,000,000 for the print!

Probably John. Could you imagine the amount of paper to print a 1:1 plan?

I have an idea of how we could make a 3D model of your layout.  We could use photogrammrtry.  I use it to make maps, plans, and 3D models for my clients.  It would entail taking a series of pictures that overlap by 70% - 80%.  I then would process the images in my software.

Here is a model I did for a client using 250 photos from a drone.  It is actually to scale and I have a high resolution aerial image that I used to make a scaled CAD drawing.  

https://skfb.ly/Jo98

Miken posted:

I have an idea of how we could make a 3D model of your layout.  We could use photogrammrtry.  I use it to make maps, plans, and 3D models for my clients.  It would entail taking a series of pictures that overlap by 70% - 80%.  I then would process the images in my software.

That's a very cool idea, like the old stereo photos. I can fairly easily feed you key dimensions along with a ton of photos. My only concern would be getting good shooting angles.

Shoot me an email and I can set up a Dropbox for you to share some photos. We could start out with a section as a test.  

Mike,

What photogrammetry program are you using?

Do you need that much over lap?

Thanks

I created my layout design in CorelDraw.......I can scale it up or down....all the info I need. $100 would be tough for me to justify and mine is 30 x 34.....

Going to their website and reading the price gave me a good laugh.  

I'll just lay track and when it's in place, trace along the outside of the track, pick up the track and begin the build.

-Greg

Big_Boy_4005 posted:

Yes, we all got that email.

I'm very curious about the service, just because I would love to have a digitized drawing of my layout. All of my design is complete and my track is down, but a paper plan would still come in handy.

I'd love to have one too Elliott.  I have one from my Cadrail program, but it's not in the same league or even universe with their technology.  It's neat.  It's cool.  But, it's way beyond my budget.

Frank, I use Pix4d. 

Last time the topic of mass mailings came up (with regard to a forum sponsor's frequent mass mailings), Rich Melvin said OGR does not sell lists of email addresses; however, anyone willing to join the forum and employ a little technology or elbow grease could harvest forum member email addresses ... or someone who already had compiled the list (like the aforementioned forum sponsor) could sell the email addresses or share with an associate.

What, me worry?   

A  10 x 10 layout got $750.

Fine..just tell me, how many cars can it pull up a 2% grade?

I'm not buying an engineers hat, or a fake tree, because I only spend my

Hobby dollars on

Engines,  rolling stock or track, or something that supports the track.

I'm also not to keen to the idea of emails from advertisers...

Put your ad on the header page...if I want it, I will go there

But know that SCAARM work's just fine.

Alfred E Neuman posted:

Last time the topic of mass mailings came up (with regard to a forum sponsor's frequent mass mailings), Rich Melvin said OGR does not sell lists of email addresses; however, anyone willing to join the forum and employ a little technology or elbow grease could harvest forum member email addresses ... or someone who already had compiled the list (like the aforementioned forum sponsor) could sell the email addresses or share with an associate.

What, me worry?   

I wonder if this email was not sent directly by LayoutPrinting.com after buying, culling or trolling OGR's list of email addresses but rather was it sent by OGR Publishing, Inc. itself. I say this because:

• the top of the email says "introducing a new company, Layout Printing" and that doesn't seem like the wording a company would use to introduce itself.
• and when you click on the SafeUnsubscribe link at the bottom of the email it takes you to a page with the warning "this will stop all emails from OGR Publishing, Inc.

Guys....just saw this thread so let me explain....  The email that you received was from OGR on behalf of one of our sponsor/advertisers as a new service they are offering.  OGR does not share emails or profile information.  When a client wants to send an email blast, OGR sends it using the message the client has supplied and there is a fee to do this. 

As far as pricing, the prices quoted above are for the complete design service.  If you have your own track planning program and want to be able to have it printed out full scale so that you can mount it on your benchwork, James offers that service as well and it is less expensive.

I suggest that you take a closer look at the pricing and if you have special needs, or want to discuss price, I am sure James will be more than happy to talk with you.

Alan

There are several track planning PC-friendly software products out there. I use ANYRAIL, which saves the finished drawing and prints it out to a PC printer on a standard 8.5 x 11 inch sheet of paper for reference.  ANYRAIL can also save the drawing as a digital JPG file, which could be sent to a local copy center for enlargement up to the size capacity of their large format printer. However, a very large enlargement would probably lose detail when printed.

My emerging home layout is L-shaped at 19 x 19 feet along two sides of the "L."  I can't imagination a need for a print that big or even half that size. Maybe a wall mural for the train room -- installed like wallpaper -- for a hobbyist who wants to "think big."

Mike
(ritrainguy)

When I was building my layout, I up scaled my original 8.5 x 11 inch drawing to full size using builder's paper I found at a local building center.  This pointed out a lot of clearance errors so I made the corrections directly on the builder's paper.  By doing it that way, at least for me, I could envision everything in its place.  It would have been nice to have a service like James is offering when I was doing this....but in my small community there were no large format printers...  Sure would have saved a lot of time and effort.!!

Alan

Dave45681 posted:

Is this still the "official" story from OGR?  Yesterday I got one that looked very much like it was from rrlayoutprinting@gmail.com, as opposed to the previous one that was very easy to tell it was actually originating from OGR.

Yes, this is still the "official story" from OGR.

We sent the email on behalf of Layoutprinting.com to our email list. We used the rrlayoutprinting@gmail.com return address so they could receive the responses directly. If we use our return address, then we have to have to forward all the responses to them, as we had to do with their first email.

The response from our mailing list is usually pretty good. We had to forward a lot of emails to them on the first mailing!