I am surprised how many different 1/64 models were made. The green Getty is likely Getty Oil.
@TrainsRMe posted:
Those old trucks are very nice, l have a couple on the layout but their final position has not been determined. A note on the car hauler with the pickup trucks, the fellas have finished assembly of the last two when they got back from the lunch break.
Ray
Anybody like stock cars? These are all from the 1990s. Many are by Racing Champions, but some are unmarked. Two are Hasbro. The '64 Plymouth in the first photo , second in the front line, came from Wisk detergent in 1997: "To receive your 1/64 scale diecast 1964 Belvedere by mail, please follow directions. First time ever in die cast! $1.99 includes S & H".".
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I have A LOT of Racing Champions cars but no stock cars. Eight blue #43 Richard Petty look cars in the first picture. Bought most of the police, fire and ambulance vehicles made by Racing Champions.
Yep, you're right - Petty Enterprises.
Here are some big boats:
Matchbox 1985, made in Macau, Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud & Hot Wheels 1969, made in Hong Kong, Rolls-RoyceSilver Shadow.
Hot Wheels 1969, Custom Continental Mark lll & Maisto, made in China, Chrysler 300C.
Hot Wheels 1968, CustomDodge Charger and 1997 made in Malaysia, 1970 Roadrunner.
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You guys have it made with the plentiful and usually cheaper diecast, now finding s scale trains are another story.
Absolutely, on the diecast. And with trains, especially if you want a particular favorite to be made.
May I slide in a couple shots of 1/60 cars here? The 1981 Plymouth Horizon (China, unmarked mfg.) is quite apparently a larger scale than the 1970 Olds Cutlass (Castline, 2019, China), with just 4% difference.
The 1/60 Caravan, Matchbox, 1983, is customized to resemble a 1988.
The 1966 Dodge Dart is Hot Wheels, Thailand, 2010.
All these are painted or customized to resemble cars that I've had. I've built lots of larger scale kits, but these little fellows are quite the challenge to work on.
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When Racing champions started making the 1/64th scale cars they used the same size chassis for all the cars. That resulted in actual scale varying from 1/60 to 1/70 depending on the prototype modeled. Compare a two door 1949 Ford to a Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, the models are the same length. After M2M took over multiple length chassis were used. I avoid putting cars that are two different sizes in real life too close to each other on the layout. I find they all work well regardless of the exact scale.
Here are two pictures of a PCC street car stopped next to a suburban station on the layout. Corgi advertises their PCC cars as 1/50th scale. The station is an HO model, but it has large dimensions for a 1/87 model, it looks correct on the S scale layout. The black car in the second picture is 1/64, the people are 1/64. I find that there is some flexibility in the exact scale of details even in a scale environment.
In the arcane details department the track gauge is incorrect for a Pittsburgh street car. The gauge is a scale 6” too narrow. Pittsburgh Railways used 5’-2 1/2” gauge for the streetcar system.
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Tom, that is an excellent choice for a station, you say HO, which manufacturer, and is it still available?
Again thanks for sharing your layout with us.
Ray
Ray, both of my stations and a few other structures are HO. Some of the HO items are quite large. I spent half a day going through the Walthers catalog with an experienced model builder looking at the appearance and dimensions of the type of structures I wanted on the layout. As a result, both of my stations, this suburban station and the main station, are HO. Below are two picture of the back of the main station. It spans the width of 4 of the 6 tracks in the passenger yard so it is surprising large for an HO structure.
I have a listing of all the items on the layout, it include the catalog item numbers as well for some items, not sure about the suburban station. We are in San Diego until Tuesday night, when I get back to the house I will get the master list and provide the specifics for the suburban station that are included.
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A couple Fords: A Racing Champions 1950 Ford, made in China.
And a Hot Wheels 1933/34 Ford rod, made in China, 1996. It was part of the Home Improvement TV show pack, which included the Dixie Chopper, a Binford Tool rollaway, and figures of Al and Tim.
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Ray, I have gone through the list of all the structures purchased for the layout. For some reason there is no purchase record for two structures, the roundhouse and that suburban station you asked about. The main station pictured above is from the Walthers catalog in the HO section and is just called Union Station, the catalog price was $83.50.
One more thing I can do is remove the suburban station from the layout and see if there are any identifying marks on the inside of the roof or wall panels. I am certain it is from the Walthers catalog because all the other HO structures used are from Walthers. The S scale and the O scale structures were sourced direct from other manufacturers.
Tom,
No need to do that, I just thought you might have the info at hand but thankyou.
Ray
@TrainsRMe posted:
Both of these are pretty cool, I have not seen the 1950 Ford before. Still waiting for the guys to finish loading the pickup trucks.
Ray
Here are four more Racing Champions 1949 2 door Fords including a police car. The green Ford above is very interesting for several reasons; the green paint is more realistic than my yellow paint, the green car has black wall tires and there is no chrome side spear trim piece. Also no chrome trim around the windows. These pictured below are models of 1949 cars because of the two piece windshield.
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I should have pointed out the police car has neither the chrome window trim nor the chrome side trim. It also has blackwall tires The yellow car does not have chrome window trim but has the chrome side trim.
Continuing on with Fords, this blue-roofed one is a 1977 model from Hong Kong by Hot Wheels, unidentified, but with a little reworking I'm calling it a 1977 LTD ll.
The red-roofed one is by Matchbox (Thailand, 1987), also unidentified, but I painted it like a 1982 LTD I had.
Three 50s Thunderbirds: a plastic 1950s model - looks like it was a kit - of a 1955/56, a Johnny Lightning 1955/56 (China 2002), and a 1957 by Hot Wheels (China) .
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Here is a compilation of my "eight car" car haulers, there is seven of them. The fellows at Ford finally got the trucks all loaded finally. I've been anxious for this, and the shipment of vehicles is ready to head across country.
It has not been mentioned in this thread, but these car haulers are all Lionel O-27 cars, the cars are a perfect fit for S gauge use. The O gauge trucks were removed and replaced for the most part American Flyer trucks, the only exception being the car holding the pickup trucks. This car because of clearance considerations had the O gauge trucks replaced with Ace trucks and coupler adapters.
I do have a couple of four car haulers in the works but those will come later.
Ray
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There are a lot of nice cars on the haulers. The freight cars look like they scale out at 50' to 55'. They apparently have no problem on 20"R track or even S curves at the turnouts.
Actually Tom, the cars have not presented any problems on the curves or the crossovers. The problem is the weight but fortunately with TMCC/Legacy l can double or triple head the trains, very necessary on the1 1/2 percent grade. The weight of the loads may help the cars track better.
Ray
Interesting, those die cast cars must be really heavy to require double heading a Legacy engine. Any of my Legacy engines will easily pull a 30 car freight up 2.4% grades. Converted AM engines are a different story. With the possible exception of the Northerns none of my TMCC AM engines will pull 20 cars up a 2.4% grade, a few of them either slip or stall with just 10 cars. I could see needing to double or even triple head the American Models TMCC engines.
I have some AM engines with scale wheels, no traction tires. One diesel will not start a 6 car passenger train on level track due to wheel slip. However, double headed, two scale diesels will pull 9 passenger cars up the 2.4% grade. Adding the second engine appears to more than double the pulling power.
Even though I model O scale, I also collect diecast fire apparatus.
These are a representation of one of the finest efforts in 1/64 fire apparatus models - Code 3. It's a shame they are no longer with us, as they had some really stellar vehicles, from classics to modern.
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Interesting, those die cast cars must be really heavy to require double heading a Legacy engine. Any of my Legacy engines will easily pull a 30 car freight up 2.4% grades. Converted AM engines are a different story. With the possible exception of the Northerns none of my TMCC AM engines will pull 20 cars up a 2.4% grade, a few of them either slip or stall with just 10 cars. I could see needing to double or even triple head the American Models TMCC engines.
I have some AM engines with scale wheels, no traction tires. One diesel will not start a 6 car passenger train on level track due to wheel slip. However, double headed, two scale diesels will pull 9 passenger cars up the 2.4% grade. Adding the second engine appears to more than double the pulling power.
The only Legacy engine that I have pulled these with are my U-33. I'll have to try one of my steamers.I do have a Flyonel Northern that I converted to TMCC, maybe l will give that one a shot at pulling that load.
I'll take a scale down and weigh one of the cars.
I just had a look at those fire engines, man they are beautiful.
Ray
I just weighed the last car with the load of pickup trucks, it weighed in at 1 lb 6oz.
Ray
DaveP - Those fire engines look beautifully detailed for 1/64 scale. Amazing.
Rayin"S" - All i can say is wow! What a collection.
Wow! Four of those cars would be close to six pounds, that is off the charts heavy for S gauge. I think the Big Boy would pull them because it is an O gauge engine on S gauge trucks. Not sure if even a Challenger would pull a 15 car train including four of the car carriers. Maybe on the level but up a 2.4% grade would be interesting.
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As a child, I had a few code 3 trucks, which were wonderfully detailed. Unfortunately, I currently model O, so they won’t work on the layout. Corgi are okay, but almost none of them are modern.
The Northern pulled the seven car haulers, had a little wheel slip going up the grade the first trip around, after that it was effortless.
Ray
Here are a couple photos of my 3/16 cars. Most are scattered around the layout.
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@AmFlyer posted:
Tom, I looked to the place where I thought to replace the station I have now but it will not quite fit with the dimensions given. I considered putting s foundation under it so it would work with my Flyer track and roadbed but it would require some major modifications to the scenery. I am going to order the station but placing it where I want it will probably wait its turn.
Ray
The front to back dimension would be impossible to shorten. There is a platform extension to each side of the main building. The one shown on the right in the picture could be left off to shorten the station if necessary.
@AmFlyer posted:The front to back dimension would be impossible to shorten. There is a platform extension to each side of the main building. The one shown on the right in the picture could be left off to shorten the station if necessary.
Yes, The mods will be done to the scenery, the station is to nice to cut up.
Ray
A 1954 Chevy by Castline, a nicely detailed 2012 product from China. A 1970 Chevy Concours Estate Wagon by Hot Wheels, from Malaysia.
A really nice 1954 Chevy, looks like the one my brother had.
Ray