Lionel 3765 Two Tone Blue Santa Fe?

Well being that the ATSF never painted a Northern in the two tone blue used on the 3460 "Blue Goose" Hudson Lionel has no prototype to match, so the color can be whatever they want it to be.

3765, the Northern that was supposed to sport similar streamlining to 3460, was a 3765 class Northern, and different than the 3751 class, which is what Lionel's locomotive is a model of.

It's a fantasy locomotive in two ways, so fidelity to prototype colors doesn't really apply. 

I have this Lionel engine and I plan to run it on Sunday at the club.  Right now, it is still boxed up so I cannot answer your questions.  I plan to run the engine with either the MTH two-tone blue passenger cars or with Lionel's 21" Santa Fe cars?? Look for the video here or on my Sunday Running at TMB.

@dkdkrd posted:

I'm interested in seeing this 'Blue Moose', too.  Hopefully someone will post photos/video of this creature of the imagination.

When I saw the catalog artwork, it seemed like the blue color was being portrayed as some sort of anodized treatment.  And, WOW!, that certainly would be eye-catching and an iron horse of a different color!!!

Which led me to imagine an appropriate string of cars for this beast.  The prototype "Blue Goose", #3460 Hudson 4-6-4, was most famously associated with the streamlined "Chief", all-stainless.  In its life, however, it pulled an assortment of equipment, of which in later years was more of a disgrace to its style.  They shortened her hem-line and quit washing her, too......rather a nasty way for such a unique speedster to go to the torch.

I wondered what a string of Lionel's  2500-series aluminum cars would look like if, for instance, as was done with the O27 2400-series passenger cars, the window-line panel was painted with a blue stripe.....which Tamiya neatly offers in their for-polycarbonates (read: R/C car bodies) paint line, item PS-16, Anodized Aluminum Sky Blue...

I'm sure it would adhere to aluminum, but this line of paint should NOT be used on more common hobby plastic such as polystyrene.

Our LHS has stocked it....it's quite the attention-getting blue color on an R/C car body!  Currently Tamiya is out-of-stock, but there's lots of it available on the web.  

But, until the Lionel 'Blue Moose' is seen, who knows whether the artwork is credible....as per their standard caveats.  It might end up the usual blah-blue....

KD

I think you'd be happier with this 

@dkdkrd posted:

Already have it!...PS2.0 version!  I remember having it track-tested at our LHS the day I picked it up!  Drew a crowd...smoke, sound, whistle, appearance......simply awesome!  

KD

Mine is the original issue PS2 5V version from 2002. Came to me with no boards or lights, but had a 9434 Pittman and driveline. Put a PS3 kit in it along with the sound file from the PS3 version. Has the quillable whistle and all now.

@Lou1985 posted:

Well being that the ATSF never painted a Northern in the two tone blue used on the 3460 "Blue Goose" Hudson Lionel has no prototype to match, so the color can be whatever they want it to be.

Of course not true at all. I'd expect it coming painted in the actual 3460 Blue Goose colors, anything less would have to be considered another huge engineering mistake. Some friends just ran the last Santa Fe PA's where Lionel painted the roof as a F unit rather than a PA EVEN THOUGH they produced them correctly before, along with their new PRR J with some bizarre whistle even though it was produced correctly before as well. 

Did Weaver and MTH hit the mark on the Santa Fe Blues?Don't recall any complaints.

I was just sent this, doesn't look good. MTH left hand, Lionel right hand. 

@FrankRazz posted:

I have this Lionel engine and I plan to run it on Sunday at the club.  Right now, it is still boxed up so I cannot answer your questions.  I plan to run the engine with either the MTH two-tone blue passenger cars or with Lionel's 21" Santa Fe cars?? Look for the video here or on my Sunday Running at TMB.

Post some images and video link Frank! Really would like to see how the Lionel colors match to MTH's Blue Goose. 

Two friends have just returned their sets of Shadow Striped Santa Fe Heavyweights because Lionel painted the trucks and underbody Black rather than the correct Silver. I doubt they will be accepting any more Lionel items with issues nor any more preorders since none have met expectations.

@BobbyD posted:

Of course not true at all. I'd expect it coming painted in the actual 3460 Blue Goose colors, anything less would have to be considered another huge engineering mistake. Some friends just ran the last Santa Fe PA's where Lionel painted the roof as a F unit rather than a PA EVEN THOUGH they produced them correctly before, along with their new PRR J with some bizarre whistle even though it was produced correctly before as well. 

Did Weaver and MTH hit the mark on the Santa Fe Blues?Don't recall any complaints.

I was just sent this, doesn't look good. MTH left hand, Lionel right hand. 

I can see the issue with the ATSF PAs and PRR J1, as those are models of actual locomotives that exist. Lionel should get those correct because they are making models of a real life locomotive.

This model of 3765 is a total fantasy. It's a 3751 class locomotive masquerading as a 3765 class (the two classes are noticeably different) and it's painted in a color scheme that 3765 was never painted in. You can't hold it to any sort of prototypical accuracy for color when the is no prototype to model. Lionel does not have to match the color for 3765 because it never wore this paint scheme. Lionel made it up because they knew it would sell.

If you want a prototypical ATSF steam locomotive in the correct "Blue Goose" colors buy a MTH Premier model of ATSF 3460. 

It's a boy!!!