Did anyone else order their Legacy F40ph from Legacy Station? Because its been awhile since Lionel shipped them out from their Concord warehouse and mine hasn't arrived yet and I know some others have gotten theirs already........
I still have the Lionel F40PH Legacy on my bucket list. I did not do the built to order. I would like to see this loco, some dealers always order extras. Below is a K-Line F40PH, I would guess about 15 years old. I wonder if Lionel has the molds that made this locomotive. TMCC
I did watch the YT video from Train World, that was posted yesterday. Very helpful.
Gary
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@T1Titan_ZachF posted:Did anyone else order their Legacy F40ph from Legacy Station? Because its been awhile since Lionel shipped them out from their Concord warehouse and mine hasn't arrived yet and I know some others have gotten theirs already........
Full distribution takes time. I haven't gotten called about mine either (not from LS).
Boilermaker1 posted:@T1Titan_ZachF posted:Did anyone else order their Legacy F40ph from Legacy Station? Because its been awhile since Lionel shipped them out from their Concord warehouse and mine hasn't arrived yet and I know some others have gotten theirs already........
Full distribution takes time. I haven't gotten called about mine either (not from LS).
Same here also not from LS
I ordered mine from trainworld and they have already received 1 and the rest are due this week (probably tomorrow)
AmtrakNickFilms posted:I ordered mine from trainworld and they have already received 1 and the rest are due this week (probably tomorrow)
He sure is right ! and it was confirmed Saturday via Facebook live.
I ordered mine from Charles Ro and I haven't seen a charge on my credit card yet.
Neal Jeter
Lionlman posted:I ordered mine from Charles Ro and I haven't seen a charge on my credit card yet.
Neal Jeter
Oh ok thanks for sharing!
Wish they posted a video about the cabbage. Excited to get mine! Also, I hope they do an amtrak Veterans cabbage in the future.
Maxrailroad posted:Wish they posted a video about the cabbage. Excited to get mine! Also, I hope they do an amtrak Veterans cabbage in the future.
I hope Lionel makes an Amtrak #90208 veterans cabbage!!
I agree, Zach, I find it ironic that the only Cabbage units that they made were in Phase 3, yet there are no cabbage in phase 3, except 406. They didn't even make 406! Regardless, I'm buying one. I can't resist phase 3
We must have the right "Train of Thought" Max, I just hope Lionel gets those Licensing agreements from NJT, Metra, MTA, and the Grand Canyon Railway to make more F40s!
I would love an NJT version. I have the 4 pack of MTH cars waiting for an ALP46 (still looking) to come in, and they are DYING to be ran.
I picked up the extreme Hard to Find Atlas O MTA Comets at a show a little while ago.... and the cab car is wicked cool. I hope Lionel will make an MTA F40 so I will have something MTA official (Besides my Subway Set) to pull my passenger cars around the layout...
You can see those cars in this video here
About 20 miles from my train room, I can still catch a; F40PH.
Windsor, Ontario • Canada / VIA Rail to Toronto / This will be Lionel's next F40PH.
Gary
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trainroomgary posted:About 20 miles from my train room, I can still catch a; F40PH.
Windsor, Ontario • Canada / VIA Rail to Toronto / This will be Lionel's next F40PH.
Gary
Gary
I have often thought about driving up to Windsor and taking VIA to Toronto for the weekend. Have you ever left your car in Windsor to do this and is there safe parking?
Scott
VistaDomeScott posted:trainroomgary posted:About 20 miles from my train room, I can still catch a; F40PH.
Windsor, Ontario • Canada / VIA Rail to Toronto / This will be Lionel's next F40PH.
Gary
Gary
I have often thought about driving up to Windsor and taking VIA to Toronto for the weekend. Have you ever left your car in Windsor to do this and is there safe parking?
Scott
Hi Scott
There is a lot of free parking, and you are in Canada. A crime free zone. You will not need a passport, I have a Michigan Enhanced Driver's License / which is a passport to Canada. They have the same thing in Ontario, to come to Michigan. This was done to keep up tourism on both sides of the border.
If you have children, with you / must have proof, they are your children.
Safe Travels: Gary
Gary.. thanks for info. This summer I will try this out!
If anyone would be looking to see a very detailed review of the f40 as soon as it comes out, subscribe to my YouTube channel: AmtrakNickFilms
trainroomgary posted:About 20 miles from my train room, I can still catch a; F40PH.
Windsor, Ontario • Canada / VIA Rail to Toronto / This will be Lionel's next F40PH.
Gary
Is it true that Lionel is making the VIA F40 next?
Nothing confirmed, I hope Lionel will make a Grand Canyon f40, I asked during the livestream over the weekend and they said they could do it in the future.
Does anyone know what is the normal Amtrak engine speed run # is for the F40PH? I read somewhere it normally is set at Run #8 for travel I have the newest MTH Amtrak F40PH and while I believe engine & horn sound is dead on perfect, especially the horn, at run#8 it sounds like the screaming motor will explode. I just can't believe this engine could take more then a few minutes running at that high RPM level...
Joe
Joe, have you never stood next to a screaming F40 at rest on a platform? Same RPM's at rest and at 72mph!
Jon 
JC642 posted:Does anyone know what is the normal Amtrak engine speed run # is for the F40PH? I read somewhere it normally is set at Run #8 for travel I have the newest MTH Amtrak F40PH and while I believe engine & horn sound is dead on perfect, especially the horn, at run#8 it sounds like the screaming motor will explode. I just can't believe this engine could take more then a few minutes running at that high RPM level...
Joe
Apparently you are not familiar with the EMD 16 cylinder, turbocharged 645E3 engine series. Also, since the HEP (Head End Power) generator is mechanically connected to the main diesel, thus in order to provide 60hz, 480 volt three phase electrical power for the attached passenger cars, the main diesel engine MUST operate at a constant 908 RPM, regardless of the load or Engineer's throttle position, in order maintain that 60hz.
MTH F40PH / 2016 Volume 2 / They have the VIA Rail F40PH
Need Passenger Cars for your Lionel Legacy F40PH, Check out MTH, 2016 Volume 2
Use the MTH Product Locator to find these F40PH & Passenger Cars
http://mthtrains.com/product_locator
The old story which is a better ride; The Bowtie or The Oval? I always go with the "Oval"
When it comes to Model Trains the same thing; Orange or Purple. I will go with the "Purple" - most of the time but I do also run the Orange. This is a toss up, not Black & White. lol 
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I just picked up a 2 pack of the Mth Amtrak phase 3 Bi levels, and they are absolutely amazing.
Hot Water posted:JC642 posted:Does anyone know what is the normal Amtrak engine speed run # is for the F40PH? I read somewhere it normally is set at Run #8 for travel I have the newest MTH Amtrak F40PH and while I believe engine & horn sound is dead on perfect, especially the horn, at run#8 it sounds like the screaming motor will explode. I just can't believe this engine could take more then a few minutes running at that high RPM level...
Joe
Apparently you are not familiar with the EMD 16 cylinder, turbocharged 645E3 engine series. Also, since the HEP (Head End Power) generator is mechanically connected to the main diesel, thus in order to provide 60hz, 480 volt three phase electrical power for the attached passenger cars, the main diesel engine MUST operate at a constant 908 RPM, regardless of the load or Engineer's throttle position, in order maintain that 60hz.
LOL, I guess I'm not. What I know is, I've heard F40PH's sitting at the station wailing away but didn't know they still keep those high RPM's when running. Almost like flooring a car still in neutral Amazing the motors don't blow up.
joe
JC642 posted:Hot Water posted:JC642 posted:Does anyone know what is the normal Amtrak engine speed run # is for the F40PH? I read somewhere it normally is set at Run #8 for travel I have the newest MTH Amtrak F40PH and while I believe engine & horn sound is dead on perfect, especially the horn, at run#8 it sounds like the screaming motor will explode. I just can't believe this engine could take more then a few minutes running at that high RPM level...
Joe
Apparently you are not familiar with the EMD 16 cylinder, turbocharged 645E3 engine series. Also, since the HEP (Head End Power) generator is mechanically connected to the main diesel, thus in order to provide 60hz, 480 volt three phase electrical power for the attached passenger cars, the main diesel engine MUST operate at a constant 908 RPM, regardless of the load or Engineer's throttle position, in order maintain that 60hz.
LOL, I guess I'm not. What I know is, I've heard F40PH's sitting at the station wailing away but didn't know they still keep those high RPM's when running.
If they are providing Herad End Power, that they MUST run like that.
Almost like flooring a car still in neutral
No. Not even close, as there is a load in that engine.
Amazing the motors don't blow up.
First they are NOT "motors", they are engines. Second, that is what they are designed to do, and thus are classed as medium speed diesel engines. That speed of 900 RPM is really no big deal, as the engine in your automobile is capable of 5000 RPM.
joe
Hot Water posted:Amazing the motors don't blow up.
First they are NOT "motors", they are engines. Second, that is what they are designed to do, and thus are classed as medium speed diesel engines. That speed of 900 RPM is really no big deal, as the engine in your automobile is capable of 5000 RPM.
joe
Hot Water, thanks for the information, appreciated. I must say, you respond similar to Sister Agnella, my fifth grade teacher. This nun was so cruel my hands can still feel the pain of her wooden pointer when I made a mistake.....
joe
Hi all.
Here's our F40PH video. Hopefully this answers most questions you have. Let us know if you have any other questions and we'll do our best to answer them.
Thanks!
Thanks for the informative video Dave. It looks like you guys went an extra mile on these. The pair-up control is a really nice touch to these engines, and I love the horn sound used. Looking forward to seeing the next Lionel product video. 
Thanks for producing this video, I hope to be receiving my F40 #364 in the coming days.
I'm excited to pick up mine!!
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M J Breen posted:
I'm excited to pick up mine!!
That is what I said when I heard the k5la for the first time!
Very nice video! I am so excited to get my Cabbage. I may even get another one if you guys make a Veterans. My question is can you run the Cabbage without another F40 in a lashup, with my Lionel Amtrak Dash 9 or maybe A MTH engine?
Do the Cabbage unit smoke? It's not listed in the features.
Trainlover9943 posted:Do the Cabbage unit smoke? It's not listed in the features.
Why would you want a "Cabbage" to smoke? The real ones don't have prime movers (diesel engines), thus there is NOTHING to "smoke".
Hot Water posted:Trainlover9943 posted:Do the Cabbage unit smoke? It's not listed in the features.
Why would you want a "Cabbage" to smoke? The real ones don't have prime movers (diesel engines), thus there is NOTHING to "smoke".
Forgot about that.
@Maxrailroad Yes, but you will not have the features of having the crew talk coming from the engine that is leading, if you are going to plan on running it in a lash up with you dash 9.
Nice video.
Thanks for posting!
I am also looking forward to receiving my engine and cabbage units that I ordered from Charles Ro soon!
