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Knowing that many older Lionel steam engines from the late 80's and early 90's had wheels with chrome rims, but no traction tires, their tractive effort is understandably poor.

 

I've heard that some people have had these engines' wheels milled down to accommodate after market rubber bands or other forms of traction tires to improve the pulling power and steady creep pulling a train.

 

Is it still possible to do this? If so, do replacement traction tires have to be specially made?

 

I ask this in preparation with a future project involving Lionel's drive wheels from 1990 with chrome rims and no tires.

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If the wheels are simply nickel plated they can be machined to accept traction tires. If they have metal tires pressed over wheels like '40's era steam engines then it would be more involved. Either way you would at least need a metal lathe. With some research you should be able to find tires that would fit. If you had to pay someone to do the work then, like Bob said, it would be costly.

 

Pete

There's a more practical solution is you have the space -- just add a plastic bag full of fine lead shot inside the boiler cavity. A lot (read most) driver tires are pressed on, so machining them enough to carry traction tires will make them so thin they may shatter, plus you have to remove the drivers from the axles to machine them, then re-quarter them.

Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:

There's a more practical solution is you have the space -- just add a plastic bag full of fine lead shot inside the boiler cavity. A lot (read most) driver tires are pressed on, so machining them enough to carry traction tires will make them so thin they may shatter, plus you have to remove the drivers from the axles to machine them, then re-quarter them.

Actually you don't have remove the wheels from the axles. For many steam engine drivers you will have to make a jig to hold them on center. Wheels under about 1 inch or so can be held in a collet. It only take a few minutes once you have the setup.

I added a second traction tire to this starter set 0-8-0 which comes with a single traction tire. For anyone with a lathe its fairly simple. 

 

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Pete

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I have an older (and very heavy) brass engine with no traction tire grooves and I've been trying to work out how to improve traction.

 

The only alternative I can think of to machining is to apply a thin layer of super glue to the contact surface to fix a thin tire in place on the wheel.

 

This would seem to be an ideal candidate for Bullfrog Snot but, I tried it several times in the past and just ended up with uneven blobs on the wheel contact surface and goo everywhere else!

 

Does anyone have a step-by-step guide (ideally with pictures) on successful Bullfrog Snot application?

Originally Posted by britrailer:

I have an older (and very heavy) brass engine with no traction tire grooves and I've been trying to work out how to improve traction.

 

The only alternative I can think of to machining is to apply a thin layer of super glue to the contact surface to fix a thin tire in place on the wheel.

 

This would seem to be an ideal candidate for Bullfrog Snot but, I tried it several times in the past and just ended up with uneven blobs on the wheel contact surface and goo everywhere else!

 

Does anyone have a step-by-step guide (ideally with pictures) on successful Bullfrog Snot application?


BullFrog Snot has how-to videos.

 

Thanks, Lee. Neat product!

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