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I am looking to find a sound file for an actual working freight yard.  I want to hide an mp3 player on the layout which, will play the sounds.  I can only find ones that are 3 or 4 minutes.  That loop would get irritating because it repeats.  Looking for a 30 or 40 minute one.  Anyone have a source or some links?

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Bill Cantrell posted:

In looking at the track list, it doesn't seem to give the lengths of each clip though I suppose you could edit/splice them together to get to 30-40 minutes.  Or, if you only have a bunch of shorter clips, the cheap MP3 players I've messed with consecutively play all the stored MP3 files then repeat...or more expensive ones have shuffle mode which might apply to your application to demote the repetition irritation factor.

What struck me about the track list is it doesn't seem to have any/many switching operations - particularly coupling/uncoupling - if that's what you mean by yard sounds.  Not sure your opinion on crew talk/chatter but radio comm is another sound effect that could be randomly mixed in to create ambience of a working freight yard.

Finally, since MP3 players are so inexpensive (I use eBay modules and DIY to get it under $5), if you're limited on clips, perhaps use multiple players simultaneously playing independent clips of different length.  They would then mix in a way that you won't get repetition.  This is where the eBay module approach of using $2 MP3 players summing into a single $1 audio amplifier could work.

Another technique if you're limited on "raw" source material is to take advantage of the stereo capability of MP3 players.  So, for example, you could have a engine clip pan from left-to-right speaker but later pan from right-to-left speaker.  Or the same sound clip played from a speaker placed further away can increase variety (decrease repetition) fool the listener into making the yard seem bigger than it is.  I don't know what MP3 player you have, but those with a single built-in speaker mix left and right together but the individual left and right channels are of course available at the headphone jack...so a $1 eBay stereo audio amp module can boost the 2 independent audio signals up to a couple Watts each to drive independent speakers.

Perhaps common knowledge, but those of us who grew up with 2-channel FM stereo know there is not perfect separation between Left and Right signals...so the 2-channels are not independent; some of the Left comes out the Right and vice versa.  OTOH, with MP3 format and players, the 2 channels are truly independent so you can have one MP3 player generating 2 completely independent sounds.  Or in practical terms you get 2 layout sound effect generators for the price of one.

 

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Take a digital recorder to a freight yard.

Or, from the comfort of your own home, I noticed there are dozens of live video feeds of train yards.  http://www.railserve.com/RailCams/

Most seem to be video only.  A couple have live tower com audio; the one from Horseshoe Curve seems to have live audio where you can hear trackside sounds though not the best quality and they could use a windscreen on their microphone.

stan2004 posted:
Bill Cantrell posted:

 

 

Finally, since MP3 players are so inexpensive (I use eBay modules and DIY to get it under $5), if you're limited on clips, perhaps use multiple players simultaneously playing independent clips of different length.  They would then mix in a way that you won't get repetition.  This is where the eBay module approach of using $2 MP3 players summing into a single $1 audio amplifier could work.

Can you send some links to these MP3 modules.  I assume you need a number or modules, amp, player and speaker?

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TurtleLinez posted:
 

Can you send some links to these MP# modules.  I assume you need a number or modules, amp, player and speaker?

I've shown how to strip these down and integrate them in previous OGR threads but here are some current components available on eBay.  There are hundreds of choices so this is just a sample.  OGR moderators seem to delete my direct eBay links so I give just the listing numbers which you can enter into the eBay search box.

$1.09 MP3 player (eBay #191641729283) free shipping:

march 2016 mp3-player

$0.97  Stereo amplifier (eBay #221906257817) free shipping:

march 2016 pam8403 amp

$1.29 64MB microSD card (eBay #121660652553 ) free shipping

Of course you'll need to supply an 8 ohm speaker (or 2 if stereo).

So when all said and done you might end up with something that looks like this from a post I made for a DIY crossing flasher where an MP3 player and amplifier provided the dinging bell sound:

ogr mp3 player and audio amp

Or, for a few dollars more, you can get an MP3 player with a built-in amp and speaker such as:

$5-$10 MP3 player w/ built-in amplifer and speaker (eBay #361449117999) free shipping

march 2015 mp3 player amp speaker

There are many variants and above are simply representative.  I use what applies to the application at hand...such as whether this is going into rolling-stock or trackside accessory, whether I need stereo or mono is good enough, whether size matters, and so on.  To be sure, there are i's to dot, t's to cross, solder joints to make, etc. when rolling your own.  I happen to enjoy this aspect of the hobby and it does save a few bucks vs. buying off-the-shelf sound-effect boards/modules that several train suppliers offer.

The point is, as seems to be the case these days, the hardware is NOT the issue.  As you already know, it's finding and editing the source audio that is by far the more difficult and time-consuming aspect of the job!

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Those are cool...i grabbed some of the web of freight trains. One is 5mph with squeal and wheel noise with low rpm motive sound.I run it through my media player and hit repeat..goes on for hours sometimes. File below..sounds much better on my home media speakers.

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