MTH '13V1: No [really ] new Euro stuff

@ Steinzeit..not really surprised to see no new tooled Euro offering in that catalog..even so was hopping for a couple of modern freight cars and maybe modern passengers car to match some of the Taurus scheme. Guess for this year was more about getting the stuff done and delivered and it's pretty safe to say that the "rumored" 2 rails starter set will not be seen for Christmas this year.

 

Dunno who or even if MTH has a distributor for France/UK but in case, maybe a pre-production version of the OCEM could be show at the Paris Railexpo end of November...seem that also a project who has been put on the backburner for like 3 years now..!!

 

Will see if the Koln show bring any "rumor" of upcoming model, but there too not expecting anything before Nurnberg of next year.

 

On a totally different note, Busch just announced their distribution of the upcoming Creanorm model of the Swiss Postal container cars (0 scale 2 rails)...a superb model.

At 299.- Euros (ca us$ 388.-) may give some heart attack on this forum..

 

http://www.busch-model.com/dow...2-containerwagen.pdf

 

Sincerely,

The illustrations of the European carriages are woefully inadequate, but I've come to expect nothing better from MTH, based on previous catalogues.   When the five coach sets are six hundred dollars a time, I'd like to see better images published from the outset.  It may be too late to make a decision at the time the pre-production samples are posted on Facebook.   It might take some of gamble out of the decision making process.

 

Did anyone else think it strange that MTH announced the LMS coaches in blue with the silver stripes, but no locomotive to go with them?    Perhaps this is something that is in the pipeline.

 

A streamlined 'Coronation' class loco would be a reasonably easy project for MTH as the running gear is identical to the 'Duchess' class that they already make.

 

Here's a link to a period photo.

 

http://www.warwickshirerailway...ms/lnwr_nupa1169.htm

 

Ed

According to MTH the O gauge market is flat so I doubt we will see much new tooling from them. They have their hands full just upgrading everything to PS3. I would expect them to focus more on HO since that is where they see growth.

I really like the European electrics and decided to but a few. Now I need to buy some freight cars. I would like more types of European freights cars also. Although I would like some the steam engines those are not in my budget for now. 

 

I appreciate the likes of Lafondue and others from the other side of the pond to keep this Yankee in line when talking about European equipment. Although I run mostly American prototypes I am fascinated by European prototypes.

We haven't seen any samples of the OCEM car either. I just saw that MTH decided to make three different sets anstead only one that was originally announced.
The "big thing" here is right now the release (finally!!!) of the crocodile engine, the Rheingold passenger cars and the Taurus engine...

Put your "MTH OCEM photo" search antennae on high gain, LaFondue.  I haven't seen any photos taken at Railexpo*, but there are photos of the five car set -- painted, in the 60019-2 versions -- on the internet taken at post-expo photo ops, such as at a club layout*.

 

It looks as though the PLM set will be more than just paint;  the C4D will have the "cupola" [ freely translated ] on the roof, for example.  And I've been impressed with some of the research that seems to have gone into these cars.  It will be interesting to see if the Chinese really do use different shades of yellow for the lettering on the "1950" vs the "1964" sets !

 

Looking good !

 

Best, SZ

 

Edited to add:

    1. *Correction:  At least some of those photos were taken at Railexpo on a club diorama.  Perhaps the different stations/scenes are on a sectional layout of the club at the expo ?

    2.  I THINK some of the photographs of the same vehicle were taken through 'plexiglass' resulting in different color tones.

    3.  But the colors of the RPO seem off;  almost a pinkish tone rather than a brownish color.  Unless the 50's color represents a faded red -- and that roof seems too grey.

    Other than that, pretty darn good.  [ There are some lettering errors which are listed in the text and which will be corrected.]

Hey Steinzeit...well since I just received the Croc this past Friday, was more playing with it than looking what was happening at Railexpo ..Now a quick search before writting this and could not locate any pics..!!! Have a few videos to watch on Railexpo so maybe will see them there.

 

On another note, since the IMA Koln show was held also this past week-end, more interesting news from there..The first 2013 catalog are out (Marklin, Faller..ok it's HO)

As for 0 scale news, a few interesting new product on display.

 

From Busch/ MTH nothing new, the Croc and Taurus on display

 

 

Also on the Busch display the new Creanorm Swiss Post Container Car

 

 

Lenz had the finish version of the V60 and VT 98

 

 

 

But the star of the show in 0 scale was the V200 from this fairly new manufacturer MBW..just announced at the beginning of this year and basically production ready (the grab iron will be made smaller on the production model) @ 699.- Euros, it's in range with Lenz product.

 

 

 

 

And for myself the most exciting news was that the Bemo 0m first ever model will start shipping next week (right on schedule..) will post picture on the Narrow gauge forum once received. At least the box look classy.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

@Steinzeit...

 

found the following pics of the MTH OCEM cars..dunno, maybe they are the same you saw..

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you know what the price will be on that VT 98 rail bus?  I used to ride on those back in the late '60s.

 

John

Lafondue, these OCEM cars seem to turn out very well. I'm much more curious about that french 2D2 electric engine! Can anyone tell me anything about that engine if that is a new MTH release or not!?
I saw the new Lenz releases in person and they look very promising. Also the swiss postal container car will be a welcome addition to our modern railroading stuff. The V200/ BR 220 from MBW is a welcome surprise too. A good example of what can be done if a manufacturer is listening to their customers! I haven't seen the finished Bemo car yet but I'm pretty sure that will be a nice car too.

Regards,

John 23,

 

Within the past couple of days A & H Models, the British importer of Lenz stuff, has posted a price of £359.00 for the railbus.   At today's exchange rate of $1.60 to the £, that's $575.  That's useful as guide, as it gives us a chance to save our modelling allowance!

 

See the link to their website here below,

 

http://www.ekmpowershop2.com/e...och-iii--iv-70-c.asp

 

Regards,

 

Ed

The VT 98 railbus has a list price of 395.- Euros (in Germany), this include the 19% VAT...once you remove the VAT (for export) the price is 320.- Euros who equal to about 420.- us$. Eurorails Hobbies in BC/ Canada has it for us$ 485.-

 

http://www.eurorailhobbies.com...O&stock=LE-40190

 

Stefan, yes seem the MTH OCEM are turning out well..as good a the Rheingold one. AS for the engine I think that's the Fulgurex/Lombardi one (maybe wrong but not aware of any other version in 0 scale).

 

Maybe MBW will even consider doing the V200 in the SBB Am 4/4 version..

 

As for the Bemo car, from the pre-production pics they are nice..well Bemo rarely screw up a model...

 

Sincerely,

If nothing else, I would like to see MTH release RailKing-sized versions of the European equipment they have already released as scale versions.  I would love to have a 231E, S 3/6, Ce 6/8, and the complete 10-car Orient Express consist, but the cost and minimum radius of these items put them outside of my reach.

 

Aaron

Lafondue, thanks for finding and posting those OCEM photos;  they do look like the ones I saw.  And as I recall, there was a comment later in the text that said the loco was blt by Lombardi.  A comment was also made about the "rose colored" postal car, and I'll address that in a separate post since my comment is rather "involved".

 

Are you going to operate the new Bemo items on 22.2 [ = "Proto39" ! ], or on the 'close enough' S gauge, as Fama/Utz/Golden Train/Roco/Alpenline production ?  [ The latter, incidently, is or was the NEM standard for 0m.]  Bemo doesn't include both pairs of wheelsets with the car, do they ?

 

Best regards, SZ

 

Edited to correct typing error

Steinzeit, don't forget that the OCEM cars are pre-production units, so colors and some details will change on production models (remember the 1st pre-production  Rheingold pics they were also off in colors and ended very accurate) probably why there is at least a set touring some Club in France for expert opinions and last minutes change/ improvements.

 

And yes will operate the Bemo items on the upcoming Bemo tracks @22.2 mmm gauge..know it's a slow moving project, tracks are not going te be available until late 2013 and to start only a flex piece and 2 switches (some more pieces in 2014).. the wheelset to run on the "standard" 22.5mm are not included, but available separately.

I'm still a bit puzzled to their choice of going with 22.2mm. OK it's the exact gauge of 1m in 1/45 but do really .3mm make that big of a difference !!!

 

Sincerely,