I've only seen one picture of any FM Erie-Builts being in multiple units with another manufacturer, namely ALCo:
Specifically, were the Central's FM's able to MU to EMD E7 A or B?
Thanks,
Mario
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I've only seen one picture of any FM Erie-Builts being in multiple units with another manufacturer, namely ALCo:
Specifically, were the Central's FM's able to MU to EMD E7 A or B?
Thanks,
Mario
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No.
The Penn did a rework of their Eries sometime around 1959-'60. These units, and I don't know if it included all 48 copies, received modified MU capabilities...including nose recepticles. I believe this allowed them to MU with EMD models, and perhaps other makes too. Questionable investment as most Eries were gone to trades by the end of '64.
The Kansas City Southern had a few of the Erie Built cab units. I believe I did see images of them MUed with EMD's. Not sure if it was early in the lifetime or just later when they were reengined with EMD motors.
Mike Condren's great photo site has a few images of them , (and a lot of other Midwest area images from the 1960- till today).
http://condrenrails.com/KCS/Mi...os/KCS-FM-Eries.html
http://condrenrails.com/railroad-pages.html
Dan
The Kansas City Southern had a few of the Erie Built cab units. I believe I did see images of them MUed with EMD's. Not sure if it was early in the lifetime or just later when they were reengined with EMD motors.
Dan
Of course you mean EMD prime movers, as the "motors" are mounted down on the axles in the trucks.
After re-engined by EMD, including EMD electrical systems, they would have been MU-able with other EMD units..
Actually, there are photos of Erie Builts, unmodified, mu'ed with EMDs in the Withers book on Erie Builts and H20-44's.
Since the Erie Builts had GE electrical systems they didn't have pneumatic throttles, so they could MU with Alcos and EMDs.
Stuart
Jack: I know that the Milwaukee often ran their Erie Builts MU'd with E-7's as well as FP-7's. This happened fairly early, like in the early 1950's, but I don't know what modifications they made to be able to do that. I'm sure that I've seen photos of EMD's MU'd with Alco passenger units as well. Must have had some way to do it.
Paul Fischer
As far as Santa Fe and UPRR are concerned, the Erie-Builts could not m-u with EMD's because of a different type of sanding control, and different dynamic braking control. Both roads m-ued their Erie-Builts with Alco passenger units -- UPRR commonly and Santa Fe occasionally.
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