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Hello OGR GGD Enthusiasts,

I have come to my hobby point where I want to add a GGD Southern Pacific "Daylight" train for my layout. The positive OGR posts from over the years have led me to this decision.

After a brief interaction with Scott Mann, I am electing to connect with those of you in OGR who are willing to share their greater experience in GGD - especially with Southern Pacific "Daylight" - for car choices to make a logical full 8-10 car first train.

The Post War 1940s, to maybe early 1950s, seems a good starting place to focus. My Lionel 18" and 21" Daylight train experience plus personal readings on SP, GS- locos, and Daylight gives me some basic perspective. However, the understanding of extra prototypical details and option choices in GGD, as well as questions on navigating their order and delivery process, would be deeply appreciated help to ensure I get a terrific looking train for my layout.

So, as a GGD "newbie" reach out either in follow-on posts or emails/calls to my contact info in my OGR Profile.

Thanks for reading and considering my inquiry!

- Ken Gillig

Original Post

I assume you have seen this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ4pjDWWJ1A

It shows the last GGD run of the SP Daylight cars in detail.

The set is typical of most GGD offerings.  In the last run (December 2021), there was a core 8-car set:

  • Chair / Baggage
  • Chair
  • Tavern
  • Articulated Coffee
  • Articulated Kitchen
  • Articulated Diner
  • Parlor
  • Observation

and then available extra cars, including sets of articulated chair cars and the brass Dome / Lounge.  These all used to be enumerated on the GGD site but have dropped off now that the project has been delivered.

On the secondary market, which is how you'll have to obtain it at this point, sometimes the sets are sold as one big for sale item.  Other times sellers break up the sets and sell off the individual cars.

I think GGD has done multiple runs of the Daylight over the years, so it's not super rare as GGD sets go.  Keep your eyes open on here, the big auction site, various auctioneers and e-tailers that specialize in used high end model trains, etc. and you'll find it.  At least two full sets have become available in the last year to my knowledge.

Also you have a bunch of good choices for motive power.  Lionel has made a Vision Line version of the GS-4 which is fairly easy to find, but you could also go with 3rd Rail E7s / E8s / E9s, or my favorite, Alco PAs in the beautiful Daylight scheme.  SP ran the PAs in both A-A and full A-B-A sets on the Daylight, but also freely mixed their EMD cab units too.  Prototype photos seem to show that the only common denominator was leading and trailing A units, regardless of exactly what each locomotive MU'd together was.

I don't think GGD has any plans to re-run this set again any time soon, but best to check with the source.

Hope this helps.  Have fun and good luck!

Last edited by BlueFeather

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