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@Mark Boyce posted:

I rolled the curved sections of brick streets a couple days ago, and they are dry now.  I trimmed them to width since taking the photographs while parts were still a little moist.  While neither section turned out exactly as I had imagined, they are really close.  On the left side, my pivots of the roller weren't smooth, but still looks good.

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The right hand side pivoted better, but I got a little off from where I intended, but it will work out fine.

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Yesterday, I took a couple photographs of the brick road in front of her house.  This is the road that winds down the hill into town.  The white between bricks is salt residue.  Why should I worry if my pivots of the roller weren't smooth flowing.  Those fellows back in 1905 certainly weren't worried about it. 

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I hope to do some painting tomorrow (famous last words).  After a nice week, the weatherman predicts rain.

It's all coming together nicely Mark!

@Mark Boyce posted:

Yesterday, I took a couple photographs of the brick road in front of her house.  This is the road that winds down the hill into town.  The white between bricks is salt residue.  Why should I worry if my pivots of the roller weren't smooth flowing.  Those fellows back in 1905 certainly weren't worried about it. 
With that being said, it should be easier for you and forgiving to let the minor setbacks pass. I think it looks outstanding for its purpose.

Gene

I hope to do some painting tomorrow (famous last words).  After a nice week, the weatherman predicts rain.

@Mark Boyce posted:

I rolled the curved sections of brick streets a couple days ago, and they are dry now.  I trimmed them to width since taking the photographs while parts were still a little moist.  While neither section turned out exactly as I had imagined, they are really close.  On the left side, my pivots of the roller weren't smooth, but still looks good.

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I hope to do some painting tomorrow (famous last words).  After a nice week, the weatherman predicts rain.

For a minute there I thought you were replicating Arnold's Yankee Stadium!

This really looks great Mark. The small deviations just add to the realism and charm of brick roads. Worst case you could chop out a spot and put the DOT out to complete the repairs.

Bob

Thank you, Jay, Mike, George, Bob pennsyfan, Gene, Bob RSJB18, Alan!

Jay, Mike, I did plop down some vehicles, but didn't really pick any areas I'm not pleased with.

George, I give @ScoutingDad Jeff all the credit.  He did all the heavy lifting and then coached me. 

Bob, Gene, yes the real thing is really enlightening.  I knew there were places like the seam, but had forgotten one was right in front of our older daughter's house. 

Bob, I thought similarly as I first looked at it.  I was thinking maybe the Little League right beside the rural grade school I attended 60 years ago.    A good case in point for repairs is where contractors are repairing a water line by our younger daughter's in-laws.  They remove the bricks and neatly stack them on the sidewalk, do the repairs, prep the base, and finally relay the bricks.  They have worked on it as the weather allows since last fall, and the part they have finished looks great!  It would really be an interesting scene. 

Alan, your comment got me thinking.  Maybe a 3D printed design would work for a modern walkway; all nice and flat with great designs.  For 120-year old streets, the randomness of the clay rolling may be better.  Each takes some work, but very different kind of work.

I painted and weathered the brick.  I'm going to go back and do some detailing as has been suggested in the past, but thought I would place some vehicles and people in the scene.  If I open the door, the wind will probably blow most of the people over. 

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@Mark Boyce posted:

Thank you, Jay, Mike, George, Bob pennsyfan, Gene, Bob RSJB18, Alan!

Jay, Mike, I did plop down some vehicles, but didn't really pick any areas I'm not pleased with.

George, I give @ScoutingDad Jeff all the credit.  He did all the heavy lifting and then coached me. 

Bob, Gene, yes the real thing is really enlightening.  I knew there were places like the seam, but had forgotten one was right in front of our older daughter's house. 

Bob, I thought similarly as I first looked at it.  I was thinking maybe the Little League right beside the rural grade school I attended 60 years ago.    A good case in point for repairs is where contractors are repairing a water line by our younger daughter's in-laws.  They remove the bricks and neatly stack them on the sidewalk, do the repairs, prep the base, and finally relay the bricks.  They have worked on it as the weather allows since last fall, and the part they have finished looks great!  It would really be an interesting scene. 

Alan, your comment got me thinking.  Maybe a 3D printed design would work for a modern walkway; all nice and flat with great designs.  For 120-year old streets, the randomness of the clay rolling may be better.  Each takes some work, but very different kind of work.

I painted and weathered the brick.  I'm going to go back and do some detailing as has been suggested in the past, but thought I would place some vehicles and people in the scene.  If I open the door, the wind will probably blow most of the people over.

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Wow Mark that looks great! I think you have hit a home run!

@Mark Boyce posted:

Thank you, Jay, Mike, George, Bob pennsyfan, Gene, Bob RSJB18, Alan!

Jay, Mike, I did plop down some vehicles, but didn't really pick any areas I'm not pleased with.

George, I give @ScoutingDad Jeff all the credit.  He did all the heavy lifting and then coached me. 

Bob, Gene, yes the real thing is really enlightening.  I knew there were places like the seam, but had forgotten one was right in front of our older daughter's house. 

Bob, I thought similarly as I first looked at it.  I was thinking maybe the Little League right beside the rural grade school I attended 60 years ago.    A good case in point for repairs is where contractors are repairing a water line by our younger daughter's in-laws.  They remove the bricks and neatly stack them on the sidewalk, do the repairs, prep the base, and finally relay the bricks.  They have worked on it as the weather allows since last fall, and the part they have finished looks great!  It would really be an interesting scene. 

Alan, your comment got me thinking.  Maybe a 3D printed design would work for a modern walkway; all nice and flat with great designs.  For 120-year old streets, the randomness of the clay rolling may be better.  Each takes some work, but very different kind of work.

I painted and weathered the brick.  I'm going to go back and do some detailing as has been suggested in the past, but thought I would place some vehicles and people in the scene.  If I open the door, the wind will probably blow most of the people over.

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Mark, WOW! I hope you are pleased with the results because it looks spectacular. You and Jeff are the pioneers in another dimension of scenery. Truly, you and Jeff should be co-authors on an article for an edition of OGR. Congratulations 🍾🎈🎉🎊

Jay

Thank you, Mike, Jeff, George, Jay, Gene!

Jeff, Thank you, and thank you for all your help and suggestions!  Yes, some trees are certainly needed!

George, yes.  The suspension; just like driving the Diamond in Butler! 

Jay, Jeff can write the article and I'll add a couple photographs.

Gene, and I was thinking I wasn't patient enough. 

I have two projects associated with the town that I want to do next, besides figuring out the sidewalks.  One is the Bar Mills Lenny's Service shop that will go right up front.  The other is tying in the highway bridge at the far right of the scene.  Both have been started, though the bridge is farther along.  Oh, and I need a tree or two.

Mark, I was watching an HO guy add scenes to his extensive layout and liked what he was doing when adding buildings to various scenes.  He used heavy poster board thoroughly coated with primer on both sides as a base for his buildings including side walks. He sanded the areas where the building pavement met the street creating a smooth transition. I am a big fan of being able to work on the areas off the layout and then place them as needed. The modeler is Jason Jensen. check your email.  Jeff

Jeff, I have watched Jason Jenson videos.  But it has been a while since I watched and I have not seen anything you are describing.  I checked my email and see the link.  Thank you very much!  I agree working off the layout and placing a scene on is appealing.  I was just working on getting the support heights and angle right for the bridge on the right and needed to sit down.  😀

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Mark you are giving me ideas I have a sectionof my layout that has several Isaly buildings and the brick streets would look great where I have place them. Partially raised in Southside just down the street from J&L Carson Street works what you are doing reminds me of those streets from back in the late fifties. I may have to give it a try. What kind of clay are you using for the brick streets? I found the rollers on the web. Keep up that great work it really looks great and very reminiscent of the Burgh I grew up in. Left there in 62 and moved to Florida where every thing is asphalt or concrete.

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Mark you are giving me ideas I have a sectionof my layout that has several Isaly buildings and the brick streets would look great where I have place them. Partially raised in Southside just down the street from J&L Carson Street works what you are doing reminds me of those streets from back in the late fifties. I may have to give it a try. What kind of clay are you using for the brick streets? I found the rollers on the web. Keep up that great work it really looks great and very reminiscent of the Burgh I grew up in. Left there in 62 and moved to Florida where every thing is asphalt or concrete.

Rick, I went back a few pages and this is the information Jeff provided.

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Mark do you roll out the entire 1 pd block or divide it up into smaller sections? Hobby Lobby has it on sale now @$2.09 a pound  and I have a store 10 minutes from my home. Yes they had them when I left in fact coming down into Southside from the Arlington Projects ( at lest that is what we called them back in the 50’s) the road was still brick last time I was in the Burgh was several years ago.

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Rick, start with a 1/4 brick and knead it for a while to get it to soften up. Then roll out to a 2 to 3 MM thickness. The roller is only 4 inches wide and for me 16 long is about as long as I can manage. Keep adding clay until you get the dimensions you want.  If rolling in place lay the entire section in place to the desired thickness and trim excess from edges. Then roll the brick in one continuous motion.  As Mark found out different substrates absorb water at different rates, which can result in cupping. My next attempt will be to model building bricks in a 1 to 2 MM sheet. When dry the stuff is pretty firm and rigid. Getting it to dry slow enough not to warp will be the challenge. We've posted other tips on working with the clay and roller to get things to release or stay stuck to the substrate.

There are 2 kinds of rolling taking place here. First is to use something to flatten the clay into a smooth uniform surface, The second rolling is using the patterned roller. I used a 1/2 inch diameter steel rod. A wooden rolling pin is another option.

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