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Just reading of the struggles to open a bulk terminal in Oakland, CA to ship Utah coal to Asia. The environmentalists have declared it to be an undue hazard - the proponents declared...

"any environmental impact would be mitigated by transporting coal in covered rail cars that are unloaded underground."

I don't believe I've ever seen unit trains of covered coal hoppers nor can I imagine just how they'd be loaded in the first place. Maybe someone can clue me in on the process?

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Looking at this link, it is not the environmentalist who are making the proposal but the developer, "Backers of coal shipments, including Oakland developer Phil Tagami, have argued that the facility slated for the old Oakland Army Base will be designed and built to minimize outside impacts. Among the measures outlined in a September 2015 report commissioned by Tagami’s firm are covered rail cars, underground transfer compartments and enclosed conveyor systems for moving coal from trains to ships."

The main issue appears to be the generation of coal dust during the unloading process.  My personal experience, as a teen, in shoveling anthracite coal in our basement, was that even washed coal generated a lot of dust.  I can't imagine how much dust would be generated by the softer Utah coal being shipped the distance from Utah to California. 

I think it would be interesting, that given the down turn in coal demand, who would pay for these new (?) generation of hopper cars?

Jim

pittsburghrailfan posted:

I don't think they're new cars. There's a shortline in the Dakotas (they were just featured in TRAINS magazine) which runs unit trains of bathtub gondolas with removable covers. Now as to the unloading process, I've never heard of coal being unloaded underground. 

Lots of power plants have "underground unloading" and that is why they receive their coal in bottom dump hopper cars, i.e they do NOT use rotary dump.

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