Ogr run 256, review of BR-18

I don't know what the comment means, but, I will say, the sounds from this loco are awesome, it's the best sounding loco I have ever heard.

Since I say no disclaim on the article, I must assume that this statement is the position of the magazine.

 

Careful about those assumptions.  Reviews in OGR or any other media source represent the views/opinions/observations/experiences of the reviewer, not necessarily the publication.  That is almost always the case, be it a movie review, a book review, a car review, a toy train review, or anything else.

Reviewers are typically selected for their qualifications, experience, and expertise in the subject they are reviewing, and they are free to "call 'em like they see 'em."

George informed me that he stands by his observations in the referenced article.

Do not have the issue yet so obviously have not been able to read it.  But it sure "sounds" like it would have been appropriate to elaborate on the comment and cite specifics on what it should sound like and where the model falls short. 

Weakness in the sound department is nothing new for MTH.Its George Browns review and opinion, not the law, Dave is very pleased with his, so wheres the problem? Mike forgot to mention this quote,......"but the shrill of the european whistle is mighty convincing", and this one,"The quality of the finish and lettering is superb as I've come to expect from MTH products". I'm sure I've owned a vehicle or two that "Csaba Cere" mentioned some minuses about, but that didn't mean I wasn't happy with them.

From what Mike quotes here it has nothing to do about an overall caveat opinion about the "sound."  The quote specifically addresses "the synthesized steam exhaust chuffs... ."  So pray tell what about it, I for one would like to "Learn."

Here, listen for yourself, make your own judgements,click on "O scale s3/6 4-6-2" http://www.mthtrains.com/videogallery

RickO, I listened, what was I suppose to hear and/or NOT hear?  What I did hear is a secondary recording (of a moving device with natural Doppler) made in a non-sound studio then played through a 2-inch set of Mac speakers.

I am fortunate in that I lived through the last dozen years of steam engine operation in a town served by five class one RR’s, two of which were the countries’ largest. And there were a more than a dozen secondary road with hand-me-down steam.  Personally witnessed 611, 1218, 4501, and 2716 Oh and the 0-4-0 that I drove.  Have DVDs with sound of all Big Boys, many Pennys steam, sound track of UP 9000 series etc.  And I still do not know what I missed!  Now I never heard a BR18 so who knows.

The BR-18 was a four cylinder fixed frame compound engine. As such there would be four chuffs/rev and the secondary low-pressure cylinder exhaust of very energy depleted steam.  This engine will not sound like the 765, 1225 or others I referenced above.  In fact the long tapered stack would change the sound.

Now if we are talking of loudness, I never cease to be amused of members here that say they are Audiophiles and then evaluate these sounds based on “loudness.”  True Audiophiles seeking Fidelity first look at THD, Response, etc.etc.  Loudness is the very last criteria since loudness is a pure function of physics power vs. efficiency.

So pray tell what did I miss?

I don't know Ron I just posted the link so you could hear it for yourself. I guess you would have to ask George Brown. I think you could be over anylizing the situation.

George Brown's comment about the sound of MTH steamers jumped out at me like the cowcatcher of the Polar Express in the 3D version. Unusual for an OGR reviewer to be so definitive. I have heard lots of MTH steamers and I still have a half dozen. I now buy Lionel Legacy exclusively and the primary reason is the spectacular sound.

I have heard lots of steamers at trackside and, for me, the trackside experience is the most important part of what I model. For trackside experience, IMO, Legacy is for me.

Eliot