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So I have misplaced a small plastic $3.00 part (6109105054) from a LIONEL 15" full dome car.  LIONEL's website says North Lima Train Works has the part and they do.  They also have a "standard" $9.00 s&h charge for all orders. 

 

I'm usually very careful when disassembling anything to bag all parts (and tag them if appropriate), but for some reason the little black "door" (LIONEL's terminology) has gone AWOL/MIA.  If it comes to it, I'll pay the piper.  Hopefully, there may be other parts I need and can get them at the same time.  Hennings charges $4 and Olsen's $3.95, by comparison.

 

Anyone have a better alternative for getting this part?

 

Meanwhile, I'll resume the S&A mission to save the $12.

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Lionel has had the same $9 shipping fee for quite some time. I needed a small spring a couple years ago and got the same 'deal' on shipping. Went back and found some more items to add to the order to make it more worthwhile.

 

On the other side of the coin, I recently had a new Lionel item with a bad part and they sent me a new one right away with no charge and no questions asked. I just explained what the problem was and they agreed. Saved me from having to send the whole thing back, which I really appreciated not having to do.

I had a similar situation as yours, although in my case the shipping was not more than the cost of the part but almost equal to it. Shipping is really expensive now and your best bet is to try and order more items in the order to bring down the costs per unit. The only thing that made me feel better was that the cost of the item I wanted from the vendor I chose was that it cost much less than from other sources even with shipping added.

The shipping charge on small parts is the biggest issue with fixing your trains.

I've done a lot of shipping....and often these items can be shipped in a 25 cent padded envelope and $2 postage.......seller could charge $3 and make a profit on just the shipping!!! I understand there is more a cost than just envelope and postage....but I always considered that 'the cost of doing business'.

Doesn't that just burn your huevos!

Because of the S&H costs charged on part's, I have a box stuff waiting on a bunch of nickle, dime & dollar parts that I cant justify ordering until the parts pile costs more than the shipping.

Some time back, I ordered an N scale locomotive on sale for $16, from one of the major online & walk-in retailers, shipping by UPS only. The several ounce package cost $18. to ship.  Now, if a dealer doesn't ship by USPS, someone else get's my $.....

 

Dave

 

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Drive there and get it yourself if you don't want to pay for the shipping & handling.REMEMBER a company is a business…they have to PAY an employee to pull your item from stock,prepare it for shipping,prepare the paperwork and make sure it is sent.In addition,I got news for you.They made zero money on that order.It is done as a service so you will continue to buy their products.Nick

I have this problem with airplane parts.  A simple bakelite disc that could have gone for 44 cents cost $20 to ship.  Shipper said he wouldn't use USPS.  A very small outfit.

 

Next item was a seven dollar O ring - big supply house.  They put it in the above $2 envelope.  They will get my business from now on.

Originally Posted by AMCDave:

The shipping charge on small parts is the biggest issue with fixing your trains.

I've done a lot of shipping....and often these items can be shipped in a 25 cent padded envelope and $2 postage.......seller could charge $3 and make a profit on just the shipping!!! I understand there is more a cost than just envelope and postage....but I always considered that 'the cost of doing business'.

There's not a lot of room for "cost of doing business in a $3.00 order. I would wager Lionel lost money on this guy. 

 

Brad

I have experienced paying for S/H way in excess of not only the cost of the part but also just the postage to ship in the packaging it came in.  There is no reason to send a small spring or half dozen small LED lights that are already in an unbreakable small package in a larger 8x12"one full of bubble wrap, styrofoam popcorns, or air filled plastic bubbles making it hard to even find the part inside.  Sometimes things, like rubber tires for engines, can even be sent in an envelope.  I guess some businesses use standard practice instead of logic and economy when doing this.  Or else they employ automatons who simply and blindly do the same thing over and over again regardless of the absurdity of it.

Originally Posted by Bnsftrains:
It's ridicules  when  companies charge that much for shipping. I do not support companies that do that. It clearly does not cost that much to ship

Have you visited your local "Pack,Wrap and Ship" store lately and priced FedEx, UPS, and USPS shipping rates?  Also please don't overlook the "employee" that has to "pin" your part/parts, the package them, and also don't forget the cost of the actual shipping materials.

I batch my parts orders too.

But that doesn't always work out. One time I put together an order for several hundred dollars worth of parts. Even with online ordering, they only had a single one dollar part, and they still charged ten dollars to ship. To add insult to injury, the part was worthless without a second, matching piece (which was one of the items out of stock).

 

Stuff happens

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Bnsftrains:
It's ridicules  when  companies charge that much for shipping. I do not support companies that do that. It clearly does not cost that much to ship

Have you visited your local "Pack,Wrap and Ship" store lately and priced FedEx, UPS, and USPS shipping rates?  Also please don't overlook the "employee" that has to "pin" your part/parts, the package them, and also don't forget the cost of the actual shipping materials.

I routinely order parts from Digikey, they ship the parts First Class Mail and the shipping charge is typically in the $2-3 range.  Yes, they're all packed and they even have packing material in the box to keep them from rattling around.  Yes, they have to pick the parts individually, they're all neatly packaged as well.  Most of my small parts are in the $1-2 range for each piece.  Many of my parts orders are for less than $10 total, and I don't expect to have to pay another $10 for them to ship them!

 

I'm not buying that you have to charge a ton for shipping and handling to make a profit, because that's one of many examples where the company makes profit and doesn't rip you on the shipping.

 

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