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I'm an aerospace engineer working for a company that makes helicopters for the US military, so I have no problems with new technology, but when it comes to trains, I still love sitting behind my ZW and working all the levers and controls.  Not disagreeing with the trends, but there seems to be less and less available for conventional runners (I like postwar style so I'm usually buying used lionel and Williams anyway).  So just curious how many out there still run just conventional controls?

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I have no interest in anything more "advanced" than whistle relays / controls, and perhaps the 1946-49 electronic set.

 

As far as I am concerned, there is nothing newly made that is of interest to me. But there is plenty of older equipment on the secondary market, plenty of it being new, old stock. I think the last locomotives Lionel made with mechanical e-units date back to around 1993-94. 

 

Well, I understood the question: I run conventional only and am totally happy with it.

 

If the question had been a grumble about a command sort of problem, and people answered "why don't you go conventional," they'd get shouted down by folks saying "that wasn't the question." If the question had been concerning fragile details on scale products, or the lack of parts for these items, and someone answered "go traditional... no fragile details and no shortage of parts," again you'd get shouted down. I say this because it HAS happened.

 

Well, like the poster asked, I run conventional only. And have no problems, have never once in over 25 years had a single defective product that needed warranty repairs, I have never once in 25 years NOT been able to EASILY find any part I needed. No unexplainable quirks, no programming glitches AND yet somehow amazingly, I still enjoy my trains!!

I am happy when people are content with what they are doing.  Many are very happy doing so and others do not have what it takes to step up to modern operations.  One good thing about the trains today is they can still run in conventional mode if desired.  Remember guys, if you are running modern trains with old transformers, get some protection in place to protect your locomotives.  Today it is great for conventional operators to use a modern ZW-L or Z4000 transformer.  Now the older trains can get some good power to operate them.  Most of us grew up in the conventional era and it was great.

 

Whatever you do, enjoy and have fun.  I feel Williams has been great for the conventional guy.  

I own several Legacy locomotives in my fleet of ~60, but only run conventional; pretty much no interest in going command, although I do have a CAB1/PM I occasionally pull out for the kids to use on temporary carpet layouts.

 

Years ago I purchased a wireless guitar system which quickly ended up in a closet, then a garage sale.  I can't do without the confidence of the physical connection to the circuit.  Likewise, the throttle control on a transformer is my "umbilical" to the track.  For me it's not discomfort with cost or technology (former programmer here), but a difference in the part of the experience I enjoy and an appreciation for the beautiful simplicity of an electric circuit running a train.  

 

I do dislike the fact I usually don't have the option of purchasing conventional versions of modern trains at a reduced cost, but that discussion has been beaten into the ground--it is what it is.

AXP889,

   I still have one inner loop of conventional set up, but I can run it from the DCS hand held via the TR mode also.  Powered by a ZW, the younger kids still love to use the ZW handles to make the conventional big Williams and Lionel Engines run.  Jims new diodes in the older 250 ZW makes the Williams True Blast II horn activate perfectly all the time.  I still have at least on conventional loop on the Christmas layouts, that operates more than a few real nice conventional engines.

PCRR/Dave

 

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I think Marty hit it on the head, just run it the way you like it.  I was all conventional, and got an old TMCC command set.  Played with it and put it back away, figuring that I'd just stay conventional.  But then Lionel just had to do that Vision Line Big Boy.  With as much as I love the BB, there was no way I could not get it.  So I went ahead and got a Legacy command set too.  I've run the BB both conventionally and in command, and was sold on Legacy.  Now I'm looking at converting most of my locomotives to TMCC with ERR upgrades.  I say most because I'll be keeping some of my locomotives conventional because there is just something about running trains that way.  I find both fun to do and enjoy both equally.  I'll operate in conventional mode when just running trains and command when operating trains.

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