Protocraft AAR for Exposition Flyer CB&Q XM-32

Beautiful car.

dick

So much details! it's fantastic!

jpv in France

Thanks! Fun project me think 

Always admired these Havelock Shop (NE) products. A real battleship look - will make a nice companion to your new Hudson.  In a train, they are noticeably taller then conventional passenger equipment, adding visual interest to the consist.

Should you care to avoid surgery on your current trucks, Precision Scale does sell Allied Full Cushion trucks with inside hung brake shoes.

Thank you, Mark! I don't mind modifying the trucks, I swapped them with a psc troop car so it works out. But thanks for letting me know. 

Fabulous captures my man! Wish they could display at a higher resolution to enjoy all that detail! 

Thank you! Yeah I wish OGR would do something about that, the original files are 16 MP!

Lifted from CB&Q employee timetable:

 "Freight cars equipped for handling in passenger trains will be considered the same as standard passenger equipment"         (as opposed to lightweight, Zephyr equipment, allowed a higher authorized speed). 

Thanks for the input, Mark. I'm hoping for way more info on the 30000 series cars from the XM-32 bulletin, the Expo bulletin barely touches on them.

While there is lots of good info here, there are no pictures of the 30000-30049 series cars. The bulletin focuses on the freight equipment and their different timeframes. Any photographs of the aforementioned cars would be appreciated! 

Adding the correct steps... grandt line makes great stuff! 

This is a car Jack (Division Point) didn’t do on the HO Flyer likely due to the not as common nature to the consist like the WP and CB&Q Head end cars. West of Lincoln no mail contract so it’s simply storage and excess so these critters were added in high demand runs I suspect meaning they ran Chicago - San Francisco. Dr Allen doesn’t have anything in the Expo Flyer data file that I can find except what you see in the Expo book the Q Society did. 

Between Jefferson and myself maybe a visit to the library at the CRRM I might be able to find some further shots of the cars. I also decided to build one too picked up another Protocraft box and PSC Allied trucks I had from Back stock. 

However worth noting is the following image with one acting as possibly overflow of storage ahead of the usual suspects; one of my favorites the 1550 class baggage cars  

Some nice Phase II E5’s in full skirts brings the eastbound Expo over the Mississippi at Quincy, Illinois detoured due to flooding on the Iowa line. Image copyright: 1947 Kalmbach Publishing. 

As you’ve already figured out this train was anything but a standard consist.  

Erik C Lindgren posted:

I also decided to build one too picked up another Protocraft box and PSC Allied trucks I had from Back stock. 

 

Excellent! My bet is DP didn't produced the "buy war bonds" car either. That would be fun to have too! The issue did provided me with valuable info, just no pics of the 30000-30049 cars.

No and I begged him to do it!! Lol 

He did my battleship “speed lettering” coach though.

Erik, I suggest you tap the protocraft screw bolster to take the PSC screw. Here it is with the tap I used, works perfectly.

Nice! Thanks 

you got mad picture takin' skills man!.....beautiful shots.....super detail!.............thanks for sharing!...............Pat

the ownership plate will be tough... hmmmm I'll burn that bridge when I get to it

harmonyards posted:

you got mad picture takin' skills man!.....beautiful shots.....super detail!.............thanks for sharing!...............Pat

Thank you, Pat!

The following are from the Burlington Bulletin and use for reference only. 

30050 was the first red colored freight intended xm-32 to come out of HV. This means that if you are modeling the 30000-30049 Pullman green cars, the built date should be before 11-40. Notice no steam and secondary air lines.

"Exposition Flyer"? Wasn't that the heavy weight name train that ran on the Rio Grande before the Calif. Zephyr?

The Expo was a joint effort between CB&Q, D&RGW and WP. The predecessor of the CZ. IMHO a more interesting train than the CZ, but then again there wouldn't be one without the other. Legendary train with a wonderful array of pulling power and rolling stock to choose from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposition_Flyer

Anyone know if the Flyer was ever pulled over the WP by FTs?  There is a Vanishing Vistas card photo claiming to show it and but there is not enough visible for me to tell.

rdunniii posted:

Anyone know if the Flyer was ever pulled over the WP by FTs?  There is a Vanishing Vistas card photo claiming to show it and but there is not enough visible for me to tell.

Don't recall a picture, but it was definitely pulled by RG FT's and by WP F3's. It's not an impossibility. 

Erik, this is the same train a few seconds later... A good quality file, good for close-ups! I also want to do that wonderful RPO on the foreground, love that thing with extended roman lettering!

MB-19 baggage mail 

I apologize for not keeping my threads busy, but I’ve been busy busy. Here is the car and other brass babies that I need to paint being track tested. 

I’m figuring a way to fully connect the steam lines from end to end. Just soldering the connections don’t do the car justice. 

Progress... car is being painted right now...

Nice stuff. I'm happy to see whenever you can post, but no pressure. I've been busy, myself.

These cars are going to look so good...

Thanks, guys!

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

Erik, this is the same train a few seconds later... A good quality file, good for close-ups! I also want to do that wonderful RPO on the foreground, love that thing with extended roman lettering!

This picture was taken at Quincy,IL. The CB&Q crossed the Mississippi River here. 

Yeah! With Scott’s E5 coming in next year I could partially recreate that shot!

Decided not to use Grandt like plastic steps... this baby can only take brass. PSC steps installed!

Some purist may slam me for this, but not all the letterings will be accurate. The version I’m going for is not depicted in the Protocraft decal sheet. I rather have some numbers be incorrect than to mess with the paint job because I had to move some of the tinniest numbers in the sheet. 

At any rate, frame and trucks ready. Will weather the coupler, of course.

Im glad I was able to modify the trucks so that I wouldn’t have those conspicuous PSC screws showing!

Better place the placard back before I loose it!