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I am upgrading a PS 2 daylight engine (GS2) to Protosound 3 with the MTH PS3 Steam upgrade kit.  The kit does not show any instructions on how to mount the new engine wiring harness to the tender as the Daylight uses a tender drawbar with the circuit embedded. The kit has a new engine wiring harness but it won't mount to the engine chassis without significant drilling and cutting the engine base.  The PS 3 kit has a lead from the tender that will plug into the existing drawbar (see photo) and thus appears to not require any modifications or rewiring of the engine .  But connecting this way there is no power to the new board as the power leads (black and red) are on the tender, not the engine.  I do not see any connection on the PS 3 board for power. The kit instructions say to mount a new connector to the engine and rewire everything on the engine.  But the engine shell  does not have a place to mount the new PS3 kit engine wiring harness plug.

The kit seems to illustrate a PS 1 to 3 upgrade, not 2 to 3.

What now?

Thanks.

Craig

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  • IMG_2600: Existing engine  wiring harness. Attaches to drawbar.
  • IMG_2598: Existing drawbar for Daylight PS2 that links engine to tender.
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I'd have to take my tender apart, but there should be some kind of wiring harness plugged into the drawbar socket on the tender and the drawbar connection on the locomotive. That would be where I'd start looking. As I recall, my PS2 drawbar engine had a 10-conductor setup; my PS3 engines have a six-conductor. Worst case scenario is you'd have to cut and splice.

@CraigP posted:

So that means we can't use the tender drawbar for the connection since the drawbar is a 10 pin connector but PS3 uses six pins?  

So  just use the drawbar as a mechanical linkage and separately wire the new tender board to the new engine harness?

You most certainly can use the old drawbar, ….do a pinout ring test, pick the ones you need, and map it out…basically, make your own harness that includes the wireless drawbar …..( I call them wire full drawbars, ain’t nothing wireless about them ) ….

Pat

@CraigP posted:

So that means we can't use the tender drawbar for the connection since the drawbar is a 10 pin connector but PS3 uses six pins?

The PS/2 drawbar has ten pins.  The "wireless" drawbar for PS/2 was just a replacement for the tether, and it has all ten wires.  A PS/3 upgrade uses the PS32 board, and it gives you the same feature set as PS/2 and uses the standard 10-pin tether.  It's also wired up just like a PS/2, so ripping all that out and doing the upgrade kit is just doing the same thing!  If you're not past the point of no return, just restore the wiring and drop the PS32 board in.

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