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Really looking for some insight/advice here, everyone- first, the good news. Yesterday, I purchased my first Lionel Legacy locomotive- had been looking for a major freight carrier diesel and the CSX SD60 (6-28356) cab 8703 fits the bill! I’ll start with my question and after that provide info that may be useful in helping someone answer my question. Any help or information is GREATLY appreciated!!

QUESTION: If I were to run a Lionel Legacy SD60 that is currently missing the Liondrive Coupling on one of it's trucks(the rear truck) is there a HIGH likelihood that the engine could be severely damaged? Could putting the Liondrive coupling on the other truck reduce the likelihood of a mess-up? As far as I know, the  Liondrive Couplings on a model are identical.  

How I would be runing the engine:7 foot long, 13 foot wide oval of MTH realtrax that has O-42 curves and a single turnout which will be straight for the time being. Consist would be 6 freight cars, nothing lighted.

Here is a list of parts for the Loco:

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...d0-9f03-a991b9afbbdc

I know that these provide traction for the motor as the coupling sits around the rod and below the crossed shaped object on the bottom of the flywheel motor. Without the coupling, it is my understanding that the truck still receives power but without a Liondrive coupling the wheels on the truck lose their tractive effort. Before I knew that the Liondrive coupling was missing, I ran the engine a few times. 

It did stop twice, at the same spot while going through the same section of that curve. That said, I "tapped" on the cab roof with just enough power to slightly jerk the loco's body and it made the loco resume like that- not a restart but like it ha been "stuck". Initially I thought I over-greased but it wasn't that. HOWEVER, the night before I was spraying model glues and sealers in the process of adding ground covering, grass layers, foliage, etc... specifically in that area and admittedly was a bit lazy with making sure the rails stayed clean. I purposely cleaned that area of track  only slightly and sure enough the reliable TMCC loco I had chose  got to that area of track it had trouble before making it over. No more problems like that afterwards, just user control problems as I tried to memorize functions.

 

 

 

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The Liondrive Coupling cane yesterday- not an issue since  Thanks, @Norton and @gunrunnerjohn for the very helpful assistance! 

There’s one more “issue”. I don’t have a Legacy system, yet- I have a TMCC base that connects to my MTH TIU and TPC from the serial port. Am I limited to relatice speed steps no matter the controller I use(Cab1 or TIU remote? With the cab1 via TMCC base I have 3 options: 32 steps, 100 steps, and 100 steps with high momentum. With the TIU remote, my options under speed are 32 and 128, the layer of which is supposed to be used for EoB or K-line cruise-  so I’ve read. Any advice or insight in how to get the best speed control with this situation? 

@gunrunnerjohn thank you for your reply. When you say that you “don’t run in that mode” , I can tell that you’re clearly referring to not using DCS remote for Lionel TMCC or Legacy engines, but have used the cab1 for them. If I may ask, what, if anything, is your TIU currently cabled to? 

Do either you or @Norton recall issues with these SD 60s and turnouts? 

Over the last 3 weeks I’ve acquired quite a bit of new items from places with which I’m sure your are familiar(ye olde Train shoppe, Hennings, Gryzboski’s, the Renninger’s flash train meet). Unfortunately, haven’t had the chance to post them, but I unintentionally ended up wiring my TIU in passive mode. But that’ll be another topic.

 

Cheers, and thank you both for your assistance!

Steve,

      Last weekend I ran my SD60e Diesels at my train club (Delaware Seaside RR Club) and for the first time used TMCC control system instead of Legacy. I set up the engines in Legacy first and created a lash up. Then I turned off the CAB2 remote and turned on the TMCC remote. Both engines responded without any additional programming as well as the lash up again I did not have to set it up in TMCC. 

      I did this because my club has a display layout that they take to shows and I wanted to see how Legacy engines run using a CAB1. No issues found and they run fine. The one negative I found is that CAB1 remotes do not have a display screen go setting the speed is dot as easy as using the CAB2. That’s a minor issue so I am ready for our next train show Sept 26 in Roxana Delaware.

JohnB

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