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I'm curious ... has anyone else experienced a recent drop in quality from Lionel lately?  Over the last two years I have purchased 5 locomotives.  Four of the five have had issues.  Most concerning to me is that the last three locomotives have an awful grinding type noise.  The noise is not constant, but it is frequent.  As I compare these locos with the ones I purchased 4 or 5 years ago the noticeable difference appears to be in the amount of "slop" with the gears.  The newer locomotives have a lot of lateral play in the axels which translates to a low overlap in the gears - my estimate is that there is only 25% overlap between any two gears.

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The issue of apparent excess side-to-side play in Lionel's diesel axles isn't new.  I remember reading and posting about this problem circa 2018?  Before the pandemic, for sure.  If the wheels are gauged wide or not fully pressed on their axles, you might be able to squeeze them in a vise.  You could also take up the slack by inserting thin washers on the opposite side of the axle.

Nuclear option, order a couple of replacement trucks from Lionel.  Keep the best ones, and send the worst ones back to them as defective!

After reading this post, I realized the "grinding" was the same result of my Conrail SD-50!  I thought I was just running it too heavy, but noticed the same results running light!

I remedied the issue by installing 2 C-clamps or (E-clamps? I never know what to call them) on the axles opposite the gears.  (Yes, there was that much space that two clamps are needed!)  I was able to place them above the axle and then push down with a rivet tool.  They "popped" in nicely and are snug and secure.

Now the engine runs smooth with no grinding!

These were clamps that I found in my workbench that were unlabelled so I took a pic in case anyone wants to make the repair.

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