Could the first 752E be from 1934 and not 1932?

Marty Fitzhenry posted:

Could the first 752E be from 1934 and not 1932?

I was wondering about that, since the REAL M10000 wasn't delivered by Electro-Motive Corporation until February 1934. Did Lionel obtain drawings from the UP or EMC in advance?

Following up on the previous few posts, I believe the Lionel model debuted in 1934, not '32. 

Bob

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the metal all looks nice and straight.

Marty Fitzhenry posted:

Could the first 752E be from 1934 and not 1932?

Thanks Marty I got a senior moment.

Moonman posted:

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the metal all looks nice and straight.

Carl I edited the photos and the date I had a senior moment

Dansgnrr posted:

Moonman posted:

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the metal all looks nice and straight.

Carl I edited the photos and the date I had a senior moment

Thanks, Dan. I was curious if it was a brown/yellow set originally.

CNJ 3676 posted:

Following up on the previous few posts, I believe the Lionel model debuted in 1934, not '32. 

Bob

I edited the post with the correct year. Thanks

Looks like a cool project. Looking forward to the updates as you post them!

bigtruckpete posted:

Looks like a cool project. Looking forward to the updates as you post them!

Thanks 

Very nice restoration project.  Please keep us posted as you progress.

This is going to be a beaut when you done!

Joe

Model Structures posted:

This is going to be a beaut when you done!

Joe

Joe Thanks

I love the 752 series.  I have one that I glass beaded and painted then baked the finish.  The inside has new window strips and  Bennett dry transfers.  I was at York many years ago when I came upon a NIB original Lionel motor for the power car.  The motor cost me $37.00.    I still have it today and it runs excellent.  I also have the Century Club M10000.  Thit is also a big keeper.

Marty Fitzhenry posted:

I love the 752 series.  I have one that I glass beaded and painted then baked the finish.  The inside has new window strips and  Bennett dry transfers.  I was at York many years ago when I came upon a NIB original Lionel motor for the power car.  The motor cost me $37.00.    I still have it today and it runs excellent.  I also have the Century Club M10000.  Thit is also a big keeper.

Marty, that is great, I am waiting for the rotor to come in so I can put the motor back together as the pinion was pushed back and rub on the frame and bared some of the wires. Yes this is a fun project of all of them I have done. 

It is time for an update, Here is a photo of the cars painted and some are lettered, I got the motor rebuilt and will be testing it tomorrow. 

The finish is Brushed Nickel From Lowes and is the best match I could find and it did come out great. The customer is very happy with how it looks.  

I have not clear coated the cars and I do not want to rush it.

The lettering was produced by Cedarleaf Custom Decals in Prescott Valley AZ.  

When I get more done I will post an update. 

Dan:

Looking sweet!

Joe

Model Structures posted:

Dan:

Looking sweet!

Joe

Thanks Joe, it is comming along.

nicely done!

Steamer posted:

nicely done!

Dave, 

Thanks, wait for more updates.

I'll start the popcorn....

Steamer posted:

I'll start the popcorn....

Ok , Dave that will be good. 

A very nicely done project, Dan...  Yes, very nicely done... 

Good work.

Awesome! Nothing like brining an old train back to factory fresh and having it run on the rails. Really nice job. 

How about a video of it running when you are done?

Dan,  Very good looking M10000, and I agree on the fun and satisfaction of restoration.  I bought one years ago that had been "repainted" by previous owner.  It runs great with original motor cleaned up, and being silver, is contrast to the Century Club two tone I have.  I did not restore mine to 100% original, instead went to a leaning of "prototypical" in the markings, and will be doing more in future.

Great work, sir, and looking forward to final set.

texastrain posted:

Dan,  Very good looking M10000, and I agree on the fun and satisfaction of restoration.  I bought one years ago that had been "repainted" by previous owner.  It runs great with original motor cleaned up, and being silver, is contrast to the Century Club two tone I have.  I did not restore mine to 100% original, instead went to a leaning of "prototypical" in the markings, and will be doing more in future.

Great work, sir, and looking forward to final set.

Thanks for the compliments, this M10000 is not going to be the same as original motor is the same but some changes in its looks inside per the request of the owner. Yes it has been a work of love and it really makes me feel good. Thanks again.

Here is an update to the refurbishment of the Lionel M10000, I have installed the lighting and some of the windows and interiors and things are moving around good  look to see more photos,  first photo of Observation car and second is passenger car. 

Great job Dan. A good train friend of mine passed away this year and his daughter called me and wanted to give me something from his layout. She sent the three car 752w set plus three extra cars (not in the picture). They are the only trains you see in our house unless you go to the train room. Always liked those trains. Don

Really nice job. I bought myM-1000 off the forum over a year ago, has been on the layout ever since.

Dan:

As usual - excellent work!

Joe

great job!

Dan,    Good to see the progress on the M-10000!  You have really gotten me to thinking about the interiors of mine when I see what you have done with people, seating, etc.   HMMMMMMM.........

Excellent work, sir........

Jesse     TCA   12-68275

Nice!

Peter

Howdy here is an update on the refurbishment. There are some blemishes on the cars that will be taken care of, wanted to make that my first point. 

This is the front of the engine I was testing the led lighting that I modified to give a diverse lighting and not a spot. I ground down the end of the led and polished it.  

This is the smoke test and interior lighting test. Smoke unit is running at full 18 volts.

These are the car lighting which is run on a constant current of around 5 ma which give a great effect and you can see the interiors that were added. 

This is a full view of all four cars less the engine. I will have ERR AC Commander and sound. The customer is ecstatic about the model and what we had talked about has come true and that really makes me happy. I added roller pickups and with a bit of engineering they run good. 

Updated : 12-15-2016

Here is a photo of the updated M10000 rebuild with the  train sitting on my layout.

Refurbished M10000 sitting on the track on my layout.

Here is my MTH 10000 sitting next to the Lionel M10000

I have been testing the motor and the Lionel M10000 It will pull all three cars but when I add the fourth one it will not pull and that is any fourth one. I have added a weight to the front of the motor and that has corrected part of the problem. It is looking like the field winding is not producing a strong enough field, I am going to update the motor to a Pullmor 200 series with truck and I believe it will correct the problem. It is running Electric Railroad TMCC upgrade with sound. I got all the articulation problems corrected and and they run well on the track as I push them along and under power that is 3 cars plus engine. I have checked the straightness of the chassis and they all checkout. 

If anyone has any input let me know and I will keep you updated on the progress.

Dan:

Beautiful!

Joe

Very impressive.  A job well done.

Really outstanding!