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I'm looking to add an operating signal bridge with Pennsy style position lights.  I'm not interested in a fancy prototypical signaling system, but I do want the signals to change aspect in a realistic manner as a train passes.  Given that criteria, it looks like have two options: the MTH 30-11030 Pennsy signal bridge connected to MTH ITAD devices or the Z-Stuff bridge which has overhead detectors built in.  Some posts on this forum indicate the overhead detectors on the Z-Stuff bridge can be problematic which has me leaning toward the MTH bridge, but I'd appreciate pro and con opinions for each.   I'm also interested in dimensions for each of these options.  My track spacing is 4 1/4".  Input greatly appreciated. 

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I'll second what Ron said. Specifically you'll need 1 Z Stuff dz 1075 detector for each signal head.

The mth signal bridge comes with 2 signal heads but 2 more can be added for by- directional running if you choose.

What exactly is your 4&1/2" track spacing?  Center rail to center rail? Outside rail  to outside rail etc?

My track spacing is 6" center rail to center rail and the overhead signals line up well. 

30-11030 instructions

While the 30-11030 wiring instructions only refer to an ITAD or TAD, you can also use a relay using the insulated-outer-rail method.  Albeit if you already have a meticulously ballasted track bed it can be a bother to rip it up to modify the rails.  An optical occupancy detector whether MTH, Lionel, Z-stuff runs $30+.  The insulated-rail relay method is, say, half that.  Pros and cons with either approach.  For example, if you do an Advanced Search on OGR there have been discussions of false triggering from trains on the far parallel track using the ITAD method.

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