SP SE-4 0-8-0 Switcher

Have you tried contacting the Southern Pacific Technical & Historical Society? They are a wealth of information.

No idea in HO, but no in O.  You could cobble one together using a USH UP 2-8-0, maybe.  Gene Deimling wrote the definitive book; you should get one if you are an SP switcher type.

I could check on the haystack, but the answer is probably, even if there is no photographic evidence.  SP swapped tenders practically every time they unhooked them for maintenance.  I think even a Pacific got one.  Ugly.

It was made twice in HO. First imported by Balboa, made by KTM. Then in 1980 Custom Brass brought one in made by KSM.

I have the Balboa version. Good quality for the time.

Can't help on an O scale version though Custom Brass did many O scale models.

 I don't have Deimling's book but do have Guy Dunscomb's book.

There were 8 made and came with the square tender pictured above. They renumbered three times. 4501-4508 were the last set of numbers. Guy has a pic of 4501 with an 0-6-0 round tender (semi vanderbilt??) swapped at a later date.

Further reading, there were 27 0-8-0s all together. 1 SE-1, 6 SE-2, and 12 SE-3.

Pete

No commercial models were done.  A couple of us have built them using Atlantic superstructures from Sunset.  One was done for Norm Buckhart and used a KTM UP 2-8-0 mechanism.  Mine was a scratch built mechanism using KTM drivers & rods.  Both use old MG/KTM SP 4-8-0 tenders.  I actually have the material for another but never got past marking the journal locations. I know of no others though I don't know everything so there may be.

Jay

Oh yeah, the prototypes!  SE3s were made from old mallet boilers, SE4s from Atlantics.  The two look completely different yet the SP "Spec" book shows identical dimensions.  This I seriously doubt.  The two models I referenced were supposed to be SE4s.  I like the looks of the SE3s more but the Sunset superstructure determined what I built.

I don't think I've ever taken any photos.  Maybe I should.

Jay

Jay,

Would love to own a brass O scale SP SE-4.

Any chance I could entice you to complete the unfinished O scale SP SE-4?

When you get around to taking a photo I'd like to see it.

Please let me know......................

I don't think I've ever taken any photos.  Maybe I should.

Jay

Please do.  Beats silly traction tires......

MWB,

I can't agree more - much more interesting than a discussion of 'silly' traction tires!

Turns out the model was located at the storage unit.  I went ahead and brought it home, took some photos, downloaded them to my photobucket account, tried to create an album (like MWB suggested quite some time ago), and now I'll try to paste the album to this discussion.  Turns out, there's a lot of work remaining but the hardest parts are done.  It's pretty much, add the detail parts and finish it.  It has a Faulhaber motor with a decent flywheel and a NWSL .6 mod gearbox.  Right now the gearbox and the input shaft are easy to see but after adding the air pump and other details it won't be so obvious.  Yes, the boiler sits way up there (lots of daylight to be observed) but that's exactly how the prototype looked.  Major modifications to the front of the tender.  In the photos I've included an old MG tender, yet to be modified, for comparison.

http://s601.photobucket.com/us...E4?sort=3&page=1

Jay

Really nice work.

Jay C posted:

Turns out the model was located at the storage unit.  I went ahead and brought it home, took some photos.....

Thanks, Jay.  Nice project.

Jay,

Very nice project - keep going!

Look forward to seeing it finished........................