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Hello guys and gals.........

i had 1950 and 1964,66 version of the 773 and those 3 do not have spoked drivers but the prewar 700e and the 763e do.  In the MPC era the gray 785 (6-18002) and the 90's version 700e (6-18005) does have spoked drivers but without traction tires.  The other 2 784 (6-8606) and 783 (6-8406) do not.

i hope this helps...... smile

Tiffany

The only "spoked" wheels for a 773 from 1950 or mid 1960's model came from Madison Hdwe. They worked with Magne-Traction as they were regular sintered iron wheels that had round holes drilled in them to simulate spokes.

Here is an example of that type of wheel on ebay now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIONEL-773-HUDSON-WHEELS-MADISON-HARDWARE-N-Y-C-/260943449999?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item3cc1710f8f

 

Originally Posted by bigo426:

The only "spoked" wheels for a 773 from 1950 or mid 1960's model came from Madison Hdwe. They worked with Magne-Traction as they were regular sintered iron wheels that had round holes drilled in them to simulate spokes.

Here is an example of that type of wheel on ebay now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIONEL-773-HUDSON-WHEELS-MADISON-HARDWARE-N-Y-C-/260943449999?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item3cc1710f8f

 

Thanks for the link.  I don't remember seeing these wheels at the store, and I can't remember seeing any on a 773, but there must be more than a few floating around like the PRR-lettering Irvington cars and other "specials".  They also made up a 6-wheel switcher using the postwar bodies.

Originally Posted by bigo426:
 I have one of those 6 wheel switchers from Madison. It has magne traction and pulls like a monster.

Here is a video of it pulling 5 heavy postwar aluminum passenger cars like they were no bother at all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fA3A3KjBGk

Had one of those switchers way back when.  Madison blacked out the first number, changing it from 1656 to 656.  It's an item that Lionel "should" have made Postwar.  I also seem to recall an observation platform that they had made for the Irvington cars.

 

For me, it's unfortunate that so many of the new track systems are not Magne-Traction compatible.  I'd never want to lose it -- never understood the popularity of Gargraves Stainless back in the day (except for the ability to fashion wide curves).  Though the loss was greater than the gain.

Mark I wish there were more and larger pictures.  My guess is that someone installed a prewar 763 chassis into a 773 boiler.  Some modifications are necessary to do this, it's not a direct bolt-in.  

 

I say this because the wheels look like 763 wheels, and the pickup rollers would also be correct for a prewar 763.  (The 1950 model had large sintered iron rollers, and the 64-66 model had narrow rollers with tapered sides for use on Super O track.)  Also, there are no ferrous "side plates" visible in the photo.  These were added to the chassis in 1950 to propagate the magnetic flux to the track, and were even used on the grey MPC-era 785 which had spoked drivers, and no magnetraction!

 

A prewar motor in the cab, or a close-up of the chassis, side view would confirm this.  My $.02.

Originally Posted by Ted Sowirka:

Mark I wish there were more and larger pictures.  My guess is that someone installed a prewar 763 chassis into a 773 boiler.  Some modifications are necessary to do this, it's not a direct bolt-in.  

 

I say this because the wheels look like 763 wheels, and the pickup rollers would also be correct for a prewar 763.  (The 1950 model had large sintered iron rollers, and the 64-66 model had narrow rollers with tapered sides for use on Super O track.)  Also, there are no ferrous "side plates" visible in the photo.  These were added to the chassis in 1950 to propagate the magnetic flux to the track, and were even used on the grey MPC-era 785 which had spoked drivers, and no magnetraction!

 

A prewar motor in the cab, or a close-up of the chassis, side view would confirm this.  My $.02.

Could be yet another "Madison Hardware Special."

Originally Posted by NYC Fan:

I bought a 773 Hudson at Madison Hardware in 1966 for $55.00. They offered to put spoked drivers on it for an additional $20.00 but I didn't have the money. I was 13 years old and it was my Christmas gift money.

Are you sure about that price?  773 was in the 1966 catalog at $90.00 and Madison was never known for deep discounts and great bargains.  Berkshire was $50.00, though.

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