hello robert bradley jr. and audidrven
Robert.... maybe you have bad speaker ?
audidriven... i will try it with the cone and without it. I will let you know if its louder.
the woman who loves the S.F.5011
Tiffany
I'm glad that worked out for you Tiffany! Feel free to do whatever you want with the other speakers. You can surely send them to Robert Bradley Jr if you'd like, but they will require a bit more work. One should really confirm that is the issue first, which is easiest with a direct replacement.
Robert, I have a stash of the factory speakers that I would be happy to send you if you want to swap it out. Just contact me via email in my profile.
Hello audidriven.........
ok, we just wait for Robert to respond and see what he wants to do ? How come the digital dynamics company went out of business i wondered. The digital dynamics speaker provides more vibrations and so its great!!!!!!!!! because now whole tender vibrates more with the button pressed and our 2 cats don't like it at all now. The orginal speaker didn't bother them LOL.
the woman who loves the S.F.5011
Tiffany
I am interested in getting another speaker. Thanks! I will email you. How much do you want for the speaker? Will I need more tham one?
I won't charge you anything. They are taking up space anyway. You will only need one so just send me your address and I'll be happy to send it to you.
Hello robert bradley jr.
I am glad that audidriven will help you with the speakers. I hope this will fix your dead sound system in your tender.
the woman who loves the S.F.5011
tiffany
To autodriven: What is your email address? I will send my address by email
Robert, I actually emailed you a few days ago when I didn't hear from you. Check your email and if you don't see it then email me at nkordo@cpinternet.com.
I got the speakers. Thanks! When I get the chance I will put one in the 5032.
Let me know how it goes. If you still don't get sound then let me as as I may be able to help with some boards. Good luck!
hello robert bradley jr., audidriven and guys.......
since i cannot hear the sounds but can feel the vibrations so guys can you tell me what does the whistle from the sunset 3rd S.F.f 5011 really sounds like to your ears ? Are the whistle sounds the same as on the other sunset engines ? thanks guys
the woman who loves the S.F.5011
Tiffany
Originally Posted by audidriven:
Here are some additional photos taken during Saturday's "Run Beer, Drink Trains" session at Hot Water's, which were requested by Tiffany on another thread. I apologize for the quality as they were taking by my phone.
Tiffany, I hope you are ready for this as the tender alone is enormous. Since it is so large I decided to play around and upgraded mine with dual Bose Jewels speakers and ERR cruise. I think it was a bit too loud for Sasquatch!
how much was those speaks and were can I buy them at?..Your tender is the size of my 3rd rail PRR S1Duplex..I do have a TAS EOB with cruise with railsound That Im hoping to put in my S1..I even have there turbo smoke unit to ..
One speaker unit comes with 2 speakers, which you need to match the impedance. They have to be the smaller Bose Jewel speakers with the metal grille and not the fabric grille as those are too large. They generally go for around $75 on the bay, which makes them a bit much for a train install unless it's an engine you really love. I basically did it because I wanted to see what was possible. They are larger speakers that require you to shave a bit off the tender flange that seats against the frame so you would need to be willing to accept the modifications. They do sound awesome and I would do it again if I could find the speakers much cheaper.
Originally Posted by audidriven:
One speaker unit comes with 2 speakers, which you need to match the impedance. They have to be the smaller Bose Jewel speakers with the metal grille and not the fabric grille as those are too large. They generally go for around $75 on the bay, which makes them a bit much for a train install unless it's an engine you really love. I basically did it because I wanted to see what was possible. They are larger speakers that require you to shave a bit off the tender flange that seats against the frame so you would need to be willing to accept the modifications. They do sound awesome and I would do it again if I could find the speakers much cheaper.
whats the watts and ohms on them?..my tender frame is alittle over 2 1/4" wide..lenght is 13 1/8"..would like to hear your train when its done.. wonder how they sound against lionels fatboys?with shell on its 14 1/2" long and 2 1/2"wide..Im going to put the speakers tords the engine to make the sound like its comming from it..
I don't recall that wattage. They are 4 ohm speakers, which is why I went about looking for a model to install 2 so I could match Lionel's 8 ohms. I also have a 3rd Rail SF 4-8-4 3751 that I installed a single Bose speaker with a 4 ohm resistor, but the resistor strips some of the oomph (technical term). It still sounds great and I plan to test other resistor, but I think for a single speaker install I would stick with a QSI deep bass speaker as they are WAY cheaper. I have a second 3rd Rail 3751 that I use for side by side speaker comparisons and the QSI was pretty darn close.
Fat Boys can't touch these speakers, you just can't compare a brass tender and RS 4 to a diecast tender with the latest sound. I add sound deadening material to the shell, but I really need to do a side by side comparison to see if it really makes a difference. I also seal off as many open ports as possible, which helps no matter which speakers you use.
If you are ever in the Minnesota area you are welcome to stop by and hear it.
Let me know what you end up doing. Good luck!
Nick
heres what a guys did to his lionel challenger..he put his speaker in a incloser....and put a fat boy in it..what you did is good..think my speaker is 8 ohms..but putting 2 4ohms speakers takes the place of one 8 ohms speaker..id got the idea of putting the speakers tords the engine from that guy..make the sound more real comming from the engine then tender..
hello joseywales.....
it looks like you have room for a 3rd speaker on the S-1's tender ?
the woman who loves the S.F.5011,623
Tiffany
Yes, the enclosures work well, but I found they work best for speakers that don't have as much throw like the earlier Digital Dynamics speakers. If you look on page 3 of this post you'll see a photo of 4 speakers where one has the enclosure. I use PVC end caps and run the wires right through them. I tried it on one of the Bose speakers once, but I couldn't get one large enough to benefit the sound without being too big to fit in a tender.
Hello everybody! I have not yet installed any speaker into my Santa Fe 2-10-4. I have just RETIRED!!!!!!! I now will have time to work on this project. thanks again for the speakers!!!
I was wondering what happened with that. I was curious if that solved your issue. Please let me know how it works out.
Nick
I know some guys uses foam board insuration,like the ones you put on your house before to put the sidding over it..I use that for floation in my rc race boats..Was thinking on using balsa wood to insuration..since car speaker boxes and good home stereo speaks boxes are made from..you know wood is a good accustic for sound..
Originally Posted by Tiffany:
hello joseywales.....
it looks like you have room for a 3rd speaker on the S-1's tender ?
the woman who loves the S.F.5011,623
Tiffany
ya..LOL Three speaks could have the police at my front doors too for to much noise ..
my nabors might not like that to well...ya this tender is long..but hey its from the largest steamer that was ever built..140 feet.. and scale is 36"long..
..On that Santa Fe Im suprised 3rd rail is still putting in suit smoke units in there trains instead of fan driven unit..
hello joseywales.........
On my Sunset S.F.5011 it measures at 32 inches so your PRR S-1 is 36 inches long, your'e the winner !!!!!!!! My Williams NW-2 is only tiny 12 inches long but its a cute little black diesel.
the woman who loves the S.F.5011,623
Tiffany
