SUNSET E7s

@Steve Adby posted:

They are coming, folks!

Great news for many, including those of us who bought into the Eagle sets! (E7s in MP, T&P AND MP Jenks blue).

Visit Sunset's website for the list, plus details of the new MKT/Frisco streamliners over at GGD.

Thanks for starting this thread Steve !!!

It’s cool the the MP and T&P E7 models are Finally going to be done. They’d been previously dropped in an earlier run because of the different porthole windows and few reservations as there were no passenger cars. Now with the Texas Eagle in production, these models should attract good reservation numbers for Scott.  

The combination of a passenger offering in conjunction with a diesel offering usually plays well. The new Texas Special passenger car offering together their respective diesels is neat but Adding the Frisco Meteor and it’s diesel is even    better !!!! The streamlined Meteor and its diesel have never been done in O scale. 🙃

There are an incredible variety of models are offered. Step up with your reservations. If you prefer a different paint scheme for a given road, email Scott. Perhaps a different paint scheme could jump start reservations for a a stagnated road if enough people ask.  🤔

You get to build your power the way you want. And Only “B”s offered where they are prototypical.  

Cheers 😉

Nice! Texas Special.. whew 😘 👍

I think it’s been 10 years or so since these 3rd Rail Texas Specials were done. 😳     It’s Rare to see them come up in the secondary market.  A new issue of these should be well received.

Frisco Texas Special with closed pilot

MKT Texas Special

Forward road signage shows ownership.

My pleasure!

I love the IC E7 in what looks like the classic 1950s-60s solid orange n brown (I'm guessing it'll have the green 'lozenge' logo on the nose?

Now, for that IC streamliner......lol...City of Miami?

@Steve Adby posted:

My pleasure!

I love the IC E7 in what looks like the classic 1950s-60s solid orange n brown (I'm guessing it'll have the green 'lozenge' logo on the nose?

Now, for that IC streamliner......lol...City of Miami?

Steve,    
If you look Closely 🤔 at the Nose, you can just barely see a hint of the Green Diamond logo.
Cheers 😉

Showing off my Sunset E7s from run 1 and 2.

@GG1 4877 posted:

Showing off my Sunset E7s from run 1 and 2.

Gee Jonathan, no Green E7 PRR ??? 🫢😮🤣🤣🤣

Kidding of course.  Always nice to see your fleet !!!!
😉😉😉

@TrainBub posted:

Gee Jonathan, no Green E7 PRR ??? 🫢😮🤣🤣🤣

Kidding of course.  Always nice to see your fleet !!!!
😉😉😉

No green one!  Two more Tuscan ones though not photographed .... 

By the time E7s got to my railroad, DGLE was long gone from PRR passenger diesels. 

So far I'm in for a Seaboard Citrus B unit (to match my E6A -- Seaboard had no E6Bs) and a Milwaukee Road A to match the one I've already got.  I may add a few more but I'm definitely holding out for the Alco PAs when they're reissued -- that order will really hurt the wallet.

Those Texas Special E7As are beautiful.

@Steve Adby posted:

They are coming, folks!

Great news for many, including those of us who bought into the Eagle sets! (E7s in MP, T&P AND MP Jenks blue).

Visit Sunset's website for the list, plus details of the new MKT/Frisco streamliners over at GGD.

Mann, that is exciting news. So many great railroads used E-7s. So many great trains were pulled by them.

Does anyone know the estimated delivery timeframe?

Beautiful stuff Jonathan 🥰

I’m very excited for this re-run. I was able to order 2 New York Central units from the E7 3.0 run a couple of years ago. There are so many options on this run it’s going to be hard to choose. Going to try to squeeze in 4 units this time.

@BlueFeather posted:

So far I'm in for a Seaboard Citrus B unit (to match my E6A -- Seaboard had no E6Bs) and a Milwaukee Road A to match the one I've already got.  I may add a few more but I'm definitely holding out for the Alco PAs when they're reissued -- that order will really hurt the wallet.

Those Texas Special E7As are beautiful.

I am thinking doing the same thing...buy a SAL B unit for my E6A since SAL had no E6Bs.  Then also get a Southern Green. 

@Norman R posted:

Mann, that is exciting news. So many great railroads used E-7s. So many great trains were pulled by them.

Does anyone know the estimated delivery timeframe?

The time frame all Depends on Reservation Numbers !!!! Big numbers can make it go to the front (or advance) in the Q. This is actually expedited by the fact that all (well most) the design work is done already.
Want it Sooner than later ?  Simple. Place a reservation.
Cheers !!! 😉

The website says “encore run.” Does this mean it will be the final run?

@Ryan Selvius posted:

The website says “encore run.” Does this mean it will be the final run?

I wouldn't read anything into the title of "Encore Run" other than we have lost count as to how many times this locomotive has been done.  If you count the runs there was to the best of my memory:

1. Run 1 in late 2011 early 2012
2. Run 2 in 2012
3. Run 2.5 for the "Train of Tomorrow" in original and UP Paint schemes.
4. Run 3 around 2019???? Why am I drawing a blank?

As with all 3rd Rail product, the market and customer demands will dictate future runs if any. 

I'm considering adding a PC unit to the 3 rail side of my collecting to go with my very lonely PC FL9.  There also is the potential for some additional roads to be added or some possible later paint schemes.  While I have two single stripe PRR units from run 2, one with the newest bells and whistles would certainly be a nice addition.

Other possible paint schemes could include:

1. PRR keystones with the single stripe and PC numbers
2. NYC Cigar Band
3. KCS with the porthole windows
4. L&N
5. FEC
6. Golden State
7. BN
8. Burlington Red Stripe

No guarantees and not a comprehensive list, but all possibilities.

More PRR teaser photos.  The K4s is also a Sunset.  All these photos date to 2012 and the quality of this model has only increased in the last 11 years.

@GG1 4877 posted:

I wouldn't read anything into the title of "Encore Run" other than we have lost count as to how many times this locomotive has been done.  If you count the runs there was to the best of my memory:

1. Run 1 in late 2011 early 2012
2. Run 2 in 2012
3. Run 2.5 for the "Train of Tomorrow" in original and UP Paint schemes.
4. Run 3 around 2019???? Why am I drawing a blank?

As with all 3rd Rail product, the market and customer demands will dictate future runs if any.

I'm considering adding a PC unit to the 3 rail side of my collecting to go with my very lonely PC FL9.  There also is the potential for some additional roads to be added or some possible later paint schemes.  While I have two single stripe PRR units from run 2, one with the newest bells and whistles would certainly be a nice addition.

Other possible paint schemes could include:

1. PRR keystones with the single stripe and PC numbers
2. NYC Cigar Band
3. KCS with the porthole windows
4. L&N
5. FEC
6. Golden State
7. BN
8. Burlington Red Stripe

No guarantees and not a comprehensive list, but all possibilities.

PRR Keystone with single stripe & PC numbers! I would reserve that plus a PC unit and run them together. I would love to see that happen!

Burlington red stripe would be cool too. On the late era units can the side skirt over the fuel tank be removed from the design?

Hope the pilots are revised… anyone for as delivered grey MILW? Those late orange and maroon are, well, not that pretty!

How about E9's? 

@BlueFeather posted:

So far I'm in for a Seaboard Citrus B unit (to match my E6A -- Seaboard had no E6Bs) and a Milwaukee Road A to match the one I've already got.  I may add a few more but I'm definitely holding out for the Alco PAs when they're reissued -- that order will really hurt the wallet.

Those Texas Special E7As are beautiful.

But I think that the 3rd Rail Seaboard Citrus E7s will have green roofs, while the 3rd Rail Seaboard Citrus E6s had yellow roofs, which is the early version.  So they won’t match.

@Jtrain posted:

But I think that the 3rd Rail Seaboard Citrus E7s will have green roofs, while the 3rd Rail Seaboard Citrus E6s had yellow roofs, which is the early version.  So they won’t match.

But if the 1:1 SAL stable never had E6 B's anyway (per Blue Feather and Andy, above), they'd have never matched if paired for duty in the early schemes.   ...which, ergo, would be prototypical! 

Besides, the SAL citrus schemes were a 'riot' of color in the first place.  I think it would be great for impressing the puzzled hoi polloi with your knowledge and explanation of railroad history and practice.

Just a thought...

@dkdkrd posted:

But if the 1:1 SAL stable never had E6 B's anyway (per Blue Feather and Andy, above), they'd have never matched if paired for duty in the early schemes.   ...which, ergo, would be prototypical! 

Yep, this is what I was thinking.  And the tailend of the SAL Citrus E6A including the roof actually is green, so pairing with a SAL Citrus E7B with a completely green roof would kind of match. 

I'm not too worried about it.  If I wanted to get really crazy, I can run my SAL E6A with my E6A demo unit which was bought by SAL in real life, and technically it would be prototypical (though I think the demo might have been repainted to SAL livery before being put into revenue service -- so, on my railroad they're on a test run).  :-)

@dkdkrd posted:

But if the 1:1 SAL stable never had E6 B's anyway (per Blue Feather and Andy, above), they'd have never matched if paired for duty in the early schemes.   ...which, ergo, would be prototypical! 

Besides, the SAL citrus schemes were a 'riot' of color in the first place.  I think it would be great for impressing the puzzled hoi polloi with your knowledge and explanation of railroad history and practice.

Just a thought...

SAL did not have E6 B units, but they had E4 B units, which appeared identical externally to E6 B units.  The E4 A and B units were painted in the original Citrus scheme like the E6 A units (yellow roofs). I wish 3rd Rail had made E6 B units in the Citrus scheme since they would have matched the E6 A units and been prototypical as E4 B units.

Of note, the E4 A units appeared almost identical externally to the E6 A units, except for the nose door passage on the E4 A.

@SANTIAGOP23 posted:

Hope the pilots are revised… anyone for as delivered grey MILW? Those late orange and maroon are, well, not that pretty!

Pilots revised …….
just more detailed ?  closed vs open ?  ditch the overdone MUs ? or ??????  🤔🤔🤔

@TrainBub posted:

Pilots revised …….
just more detailed ?  closed vs open ?  ditch the overdone MUs ? or ??????  🤔🤔🤔

Resolution is meaningless if scale is unresolved.

@SANTIAGOP23 posted:

Resolution is meaningless if scale is unresolved.

I’m always looking for improvements. Email Scott with your thoughts for what you believe is needed.  A pilot tweak should be an easy “do”.
However, I think these are really nice models just as they are. My reservations express my current and future satisfaction with this model.
Cheers. 😉

@Jtrain posted:

SAL did not have E6 B units, but they had E4 B units, which appeared identical externally to E6 B units.  The E4 A and B units were painted in the original Citrus scheme like the E6 A units (yellow roofs). I wish 3rd Rail had made E6 B units in the Citrus scheme since they would have matched the E6 A units and been prototypical as E4 B units.

Of note, the E4 A units appeared almost identical externally to the E6 A units, except for the nose door passage on the E4 A.

3rd Rail could offer the Seaboard E7 B units in the as delivered E7 Citrus scheme, which had yellow roofs.  Then they would match the Citrus E6 A units.  I would buy one of those.

@Jtrain posted:

3rd Rail could offer the Seaboard E7 B units in the as delivered E7 Citrus scheme, which had yellow roofs.  Then they would match the Citrus E6 A units.  I would buy one of those.

I'm in either way.  I believe the yellow roofs of all of SAL's citrus-schemed equipment were painted dark green shortly after the debut because the light yellow really showed the dirt and soot from the engines.  So, the 3rd Rail E6A might not match with the E7B, but it could be totally prototypical -- the E6A just hasn't made it to the paint shop yet.  :-)

Here’s a “heads up” for those interested in ordering the Frisco Meteor E7.
The Meteor E7s were delivered painted the same as the Texas Special E7s. However, There is no name on its side or nose. The star is gone too. Replacing this on the nose and in front of the ladder to the cab is the Frisco symbol and below this a narrow box stating “St. Louis-San Francisco RY.”
The Frisco ordered only 6 E7s - 4 for the Meteor - 2 each for the 2 Meteor consists. (The remaining 2 were for the Texas Special)

Cheers 😉

I purchased this PRR E7 a couple of years ago.  Brass shell is fitted to a Williams chassis.  Is the brass shell  Key Import or something else. Thanks. Lew Schneider

A lot of wonderful options in this run with Mopac, Mopac Jenks, Southern,  Texas Special, Frisco, UP, IC and Penn Central. Going to be tough to pick from this run!