Thank you, Making the Grade, for that video clip.  It was at least as good as the entire movie!!!

Well, the thread is on it's 6th page now and I finished reading all the interesting posts relating to movies and the Lone Ranger release.

I am one who listened to the Lone Ranger on radio before my father finally buying a black and white TV.  So I was raised with the original Lone Ranger series and still enjoy watching the epesodes I have in my collection.  Based on what I have read I will wait until the new Lone Ranger movie comes out on DVD.  Remember the series "Sky King" with Penny? 

The one summer movie I am going to see in theaters is RED 2.  I enjoyed the first RED and love the charactors, the humor and the action.  I hope this movie is just as good as the original. 

Oh, by the way Don in Hawaii, you are serving the wrong wine at your movies.  The hill country winery on Maui has excellent pinapple wine and rasberry sipping wine.  None better in my opinion.

TEX

Steve

Sure, Kirby Grant also made 10 b-western movies for Monogram pictures. He portrayed a mountie with a four legged companion, Chinook the wonder dog,

Ah, yes!  Sky King, Penny, and Clipper!  Penny was beautiful, no doubt, but the real star of the show was that Cessna 310.

Kirby Grant was killed in a car accident going to see one of the space shuttle launches.   The plane,,Songbird!   Great Saturday morning tv back in the 50's.

I think there is a probably a real difference of opinion on these newer movies based on age.   Most of us older guys want to see movies like we have seen since the 40's and 50's.   The action is usually in the form of people doing something, not explosions, floods, and monsters turning into cars and buildings or planets blowing up!   We like conventional type stories, strong leading characters and a happy ending.  Nudity and gore are not needed at all.  I think you'll find the majority of movie goers over 50-55 are in this crowd.  

Younger folks have been raised on movies with special effects being the highlite of the movie.    Lots of characters are offbeat or different than stereotypes from years past.  Storylines don't have to be logical, they can just go any direction they need to go to incorporate the scenes and effects the director wants.  

Not saying anything is wrong with any of this, only that I think the expectations are very different for both groups.    Truly exceptional work like Indiana Jones and
Star Wars crosses over to each group.   

I know the biggest gripe about a lot of films os the all too realistic soundtrack.  I have to wait for the dvd release to be able to crank it up at home so I can hear all the mumbling by some of the actors!!

This is obviously a topic we all have opinions on and enjoy discussing. 

  We are looking forward to the Hitchcock movies playing at the Louisville Palace Theatre the next two months.  The admission is $5 to see these on the big screen.   We'll probably see; Rear Window, North By Northwest and To Catch a Thief.

CBS said this morning that it finished well behind some cartoon movie in the $$ games.

As for why this thread is running, trains are about nostalgia, recapturing a happy or

happier childhood, and the life and playthings of our youth.  Given the average age of

us train nuts, nostalgia has a lot to do with it and why I sneak comments on other toys of the time into some of my posts.  I dunno if I am a "hater", but I intensely dislike musicals (for no one sings through human occurrences, except maybe winning

the lottery), and any "serious" subject played for laughs, which includes the Pirate

series and, probably, this.  I don't just like realism in my trains.

I remember "Sky King" also.

Along with:

Whirlybirds

Rescue 8

Casey Jones

Roy Rogers

Gene Autry

Cisco Kid

Commando Cody, Sky Marshal of the Universe

Rocky Jones, Space Ranger

Flash Gorden and Buck Rogers (the real ones with Buster Crabbe) reruns

Ivanho

26 Men

Sea Hunt

The Rebel

Wanted: Dead or Alive

The list goes on...

Rusty

My wife and I went to see it this past Saturday evening, and we both really enjoyed it!  One of the gripes we had was that it was a little too long (some segments could have been trimmed or cut altogether) and that Johnny Depp, while his desire to bring some things like The Lone Ranger to life is commendable, sometimes making a character quirky isn't the best thing to do. 

Captain Jack Sparrow was a masterstroke, in that he made a character that was originally a stock Disney type of character into an icon, making an established character like Tonto into something else wasn't such a good idea in some parts of the movie.  He had some really good moments, but the strangeness in other areas didn't work (I mean, you're talking about someone who's been established for 80 years now, without much straying from that style).

One thing I picked up on was at the very beginning, saying the storytelling begins in 1933 (leading up to the flashbacks).  1933 being the year The Lone Ranger was created!

Another I picked up on was the use of Bachmann HO for the trains in Cole's private car.  Neat, but to me it was a bit jarring to see that in 1869.  But I don't think many moviegoers would pick up on that, much less saying the Transcontinental Railroad went through Texas.

Bottom line is that we liked it and had a good time seeing it.  I took it for what it was and liked it that way.  Sometimes it's good to just disconnect, let go and have fun.

My wife and I loved it for what it is--a fantasy! All this angst over it not being true to the TV series totally misses the point. It's not a take-off or an extension of the TV series nor does it claim to be such. It's a telling of the story by a very old Tonto, as he remembers and embellishes it. 

I usually don't expect movies to follow TV programs as most TV scripts were condensed to fit time requirements (finish everything in 1/2 hour or less), so plots were simplistic, there was little character background/development, etc. Same also applies to movies based on radio serials. Screenplay work aside, I suspect the Lone Ranger movie more closely followed the "paper versions" that preceded the radio program and TV.

What "paper versions" are you referring to that proceeded the radio show?

Lone Ranger radio broadcasts preceded any books, magazines, or comic books.

Error on my dates. Had them reversed.

Eddie......was the train in the movie an HO?  It looked bigger to me, closer to O scale but I'm not really sure.

I had high hopes for the movie and then read the endless parade of negative reviews and was ready to wait for the Redbox version in a few months.  My wife wanted to see it and we were both pleasantly surprised overall.  Story moved along nicely, a few quirky parts, but overall it worked for us and set the stage for future LR sequels if the studio greenlights another one. 

We also saw Superman: Man of Steel, with high hopes and were really disappointed.  It just seemed like an endless, VERY LOUD, video game.   No real story, just fighting, and I thought Superman was not supposed to take another life?!!

I would just like to take a moment to thank the majority of the American theater-going public for giving this film the attention it deserved (meaning little attention at all).   

Well then they got something generally right.

I haven't seen the movie. I will wait till it is out on iTunes.  I didn't know they still even made DVDs.

New Mexico must have made them a better tax deal than Utah.  Otherwise they could have used the no longer extant original promontory line.

A 4-6-0 during the building of the transcontinental RR?  Ahh, no.  The crooks building the UP were far too cheap to buy anything that expensive and the CP had to have their locomotives delivered in pieces being shipped from the east coast and 4-6-0s would have been too expensive.

How'd I get thrown under the bus in that post?!?!?!? I didn't write any of that!!!

I suck at keeping all this HTML straight.  My apologies to you.  I thought I kept it straight.

I was just kidding.....I do seek out when folks quote other to see reply's....

Perhaps MTH should try to get the rights and a license to do the Lone Ranger pieces using their nice 4-6-0 and 18th century passenger/freight cars to make up a set?

Come on guys - inaccuracies or not, it's just a diversionary movie. I'll agree that the portrayal of the Ranger was 'weak' and Tonto was odd but it was still fun. Beautiful scenery.

I especially liked when Tonto answered his queery as to what Kemosabbe meant and he responded "Wrong brother". I about fell out of my seat laughing.

Oh, we caught the senior discount and paid but $5 apiece. Such a deal...

I just bought a non-running MTH 4-6-0 19th century to build a Lone Ranger loco.....so I'm gonna do it....and maybe a few cars too. The jail car the flats and a few passenger cars would be good. So those that don't like it .....don't open my posts on building the train!!!

Guess I was right about the fate of the new Lone Ranger film - despite a critical flop, it's gaining a group of fans itself, and also leading to related projects by toy train enthusiasts

But, Allan...you haven't seen it.  

Well it's official, the Lone Ranger has been voted the worst movie of the summer. Also a Disney exec. Said they would take a 100 million dollar write off on the Lone Ranger. No hope of making a profit eh! 

Saw the new superman movie and it makes the Lone Ranger producers look like geniuses. I thought it could not be worse then the LR but I was wrong, it was mind numbing bad. 

If a movie is not a mega hit it needs to be a flop. Like I said in a previous post after the $220M Monsters U took in Lone Ranger needed to be a mega hot or flop. Both work for these huge corps. Disney will right it off and not think twice about it. In my real job I did Due Diligence on major corps.....seen it before. 

And don't we have some more summer to go??? I see many more films coming that can eclipse it EASY!!!

Saw enough different trailers in recent months to leave no doubt in my mind that (1) I didn't care to sit through the whole thing, and (2) it would be a major flop.

Superman (Man of Steel) was another bitter disappointment, and I did sit through that entire "video game." 

Almost ANY movie, good or bad, will garner a group of fans.

Rusty

That is very true, which, I suppose, is why box office receipts are the telling measure of a film's (or other project's) success.

The train looked more OO or S to me.

Uh oh.......we agree on a movie.......Exact thing I said after seeing it....long video game!

Superman was ok for me.  I could have done w/o all the city building getting destroyed.  It was a good one and done movie.  I felt entertained w/o being ripped off.

I’m not impressed by the trailers, but I generally try to keep an open mind on most things. Time will tell. More than one film that was considered a flop when it was first released later came to be judged a classic, or at least looked at in a more favorable light. The post-war Lionel Girls Train comes to mind as well.

i had always thought it was "Hi Ho" also until i saw a L.R. lunchbox...

caught the last 15 minutes of the movie yesterday.

i doubt if Clayton Moore or Jay Silverheels would be happy about it.

haven't seen anything so ludicrous i could even compare it to.

a horse running atop moving coaches?  ...please.

another Hollywood embarrassment.

Seriously? It's a fantasy... How about the Wizard of OZ? Flying Monkeys? Witches riding on brooms? Riding a bicycle across the sky in ET?. Do you not like those movies?

I'll have to see if I can find screen caps of it online, but I'm almost sure it's either the Bachmann HO gauge Jupiter that's been repainted, or one of the AHM imports by Pocher from the 1960's/70's that's been repainted.

On another note, I'm drifting to the camp of making some replicas of the trains from the movie.  But since I don't have readily available O gauge versions, I'll get some HO together and do it that way, like I did with the dark green version of the Wanderer and her cars from the Will Smith Wild Wild West movie.  Doing that from an AHM 4-4-0 and AHM western style cars (baggage for the lab car and coach for West and Gordon's section) really looked good.

Funny how some things are OK in one film.....but not another. Bond's Lotus Esprit car/submarine  is OK while if you know Lotus cars of the era could not keep a light rain from getting inside!!! IT'S ALL FANTASY......few true life documentaries in mainstream theaters.  

Your forgetting one thing the wizard of oz and ET were movies with a story not the mess that is the Lone Ranger. The Lone Ranger is incredibly bad.  

We went to a bond film once with another couple. The husband wasn't impressed--"not very realistic" I had to laugh at his remark. it's a James Bond film--hello!?

What I find most amusing about all this hubub is that 3 rails, Dept. 56, giant gatemen are OK.

Well I had the choice of going to see the Lone Ranger or Despicable me 2, not much of a choice but sounds we picked the right one.