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I got and did a couple of things!

I got hands on an I5, did some upgrading to Protosound 3 . And then I got hands on the 3 of the Weaver Bradley-Pullman cars!

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@DMASSO I’m local to you, and I’d love to come check out the layout your club operates on! Can we connect and see what’s possible?

Magnificent!

Peter

Does anyone have a source for traction tires for Weaver trains, specifically the Hiawatha 1080lp and the I5 Hudson?

MTH traction tires should work on your New Haven I5, although I haven't tried them on mine. Search on MTH Trains traction tires and you will find a link to the MTH Traction Tire Chart. Traction tires are listed based on tire outside diameter, tire width and wheel diameter.

MELGAR

@MELGAR posted:

First run of New Haven Railroad Alco PA #0767 by MTH (20-21889-1) on my 12'-by-8' layout – a custom run by MrMuffin'sTrains. As usual, MTH Alco diesel engine sounds are terrific.

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Gorgeous......like I said above.......

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Mel......that prime mover sounds just like my DL109-110. I suspect they were very similar motors since the PA series followed the DL series......am I correct?

Peter

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@joe krasko posted:

I think the DL109 used 2 6 cylinder 539 engines and the PA used 1 12 cylinder 251 engine...both might sound the same... cheers,joe

The DL-109 used two inline 6-cylinder turbocharged 539-T engines (1000 horsepower each, 2000 horsepower total) - same as used in S-2 and RS-1 switchers for 1000 horsepower total. The PAs had one type 244G V-16 turbocharged engine with 2,000 horsepower. The 251 engine went into production in 1954 and was used in later Alco locomotives.

I'm just guessing that the MTH Alco sounds were recorded from an RS-3 locomotive with 244-C V-12 diesel engine and 1,600 horsepower.

MELGAR

@MELGAR posted:

The DL-109 used two inline 6-cylinder turbocharged 539-T engines (1000 horsepower each, 2000 horsepower total) - same as used in S-2 and RS-1 switchers for 1000 horsepower total. The PAs had one type 244G V-16 turbocharged engine with 2,000 horsepower. The 251 engine went into production in 1954 and was used in later Alco locomotives.

I'm just guessing that the MTH Alco sounds were recorded from an RS-3 locomotive with 244-C V-12 diesel engine and 1,600 horsepower.

MELGAR

Thanks for the update Melgar,I forgot about the 244 engine....cheers,joe

Last evening I watched yet another Allen Keller video, this one featured Bill Aldrich New Haven' layout in HO scale, and besides his scratch-built roster of New Haven steamers and passenger cars he had a model of the New Haven Comet running. I cannot recall seeing this streamliner before, and it may be one of the few models MTH didn't make over their long history. It is very neat looking, with the prototype built around 1935 - the era of the streamliner.

Two New Haven Alco diesels running on my 12'-by-8' layout - S-2 #0615 (MTH) and RS-3 #531 (Atlas O).

The New Haven Railroad crossed the Housatonic River between Stratford and Milford, Connecticut on two parallel double-tracked Scherzer Rolling Lift (Bascule) bridges somewhat similar to the two truss bridges on my layout. The bridges are still in use on the Northeast Corridor by Amtrak and Metro-North Railroad.

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Paul,   One of my favorite layouts in the series. This guy ran trains at prototypical speeds. If I remember it right. The layout was a 2 track main that hugged the walls of a large room. The large yard sort of ran down the middle. It may have been featured in the annual Great Model RR’s.

3rd Rail may have had the Comet set as a pre order. I’m going back to the late 90’s to early 2000’s. I’m guessing not enough orders as it was never produced.

One thing I love about being a Digital Subscriber. Is you can go back in time to test if your memory was correct. I don’t remember ever seeing 3rd Rail offer the set. I did remember seeing  Just Trains advertise it.

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Photos and video show Budd Rail Diesel Car #121 (Sunset Models) on the O-72 outer loop of my 12’-by-8’ layout and Fairbanks Morse CPA-24-5 #792 (Lionel) on the O-54 middle loop. The Sunset RDC model is scale-size - 21 inches in length - equivalent to 84 feet full scale.

By mid-1953, 40 Budd RDCs, including #121 – an RDC-2 with baggage and passenger compartments, were in local passenger service on the New Haven. Eventually, the Boston & Maine Railroad became the largest user of RDCs, with the New Haven in second place. On the New Haven, RDCs were known as “Shoreliners” and many remained in service until the railroad was merged into Penn Central in 1969.

#792 was acquired by the New Haven in 1952 and was one of ten class DER-4 locomotives that hauled heavy passenger trains on the Shore Line (New Haven to Boston) and the Springfield Line (New Haven to Hartford, CT and Springfield, MA). They had a 12-cylinder opposed-piston engine with 2,400 horsepower and were retired by 1961 due to the high cost of overhaul on an engine with 24 pistons and 2 crankshafts.

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@pennsyfan posted:

I’m hoping one of the New Haven modelers can answer this. I’m preparing to having a Mikado restored as # 3025 which is the engine they use for HOTT. What is the significance of “Yale” at the bottom of the cab. I should have asked when I ran the engine.

Like the headquarters and operations of the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad, Yale University is located in the city of New Haven, a few minutes walking time from Union Station and the Lamberton Street Yards. As for HOTT, I have no idea of its significance.

MELGAR

@MELGAR posted:

Like the headquarters and operations of the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad, Yale University is located in the city of New Haven, a few minutes walking time from Union Station and the Lamberton Street Yards. As for HOTT, I have no idea of its significance.

MELGAR

HOTT stands for Hand On The Throttle, which is the title of the program that allows people to run the steam engine after passing a training session.

Since this thread has been "resurrected", I will show my own New Haven resurrecton.....Was running my favorite ABA Engine set, when something inside blew and it took off. Flew off the back curve of my layout and onto the only piece of non-carpeted hard tile floor in my basement. After a lot of repair, a new coat of paint, and new board, the engine is back and running again with its AB partners (Others of which survived without a scratch.) I guess no engine is too far gone.

Mike

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@LT1Poncho posted:

Since this thread has been "resurrected", I will show my own New Haven resurrecton.....Was running my favorite ABA Engine set, when something inside blew and it took off. Flew off the back curve of my layout and onto the only piece of non-carpeted hard tile floor in my basement. After a lot of repair, a new coat of paint, and new board, the engine is back and running again with its AB partners (Others of which survived without a scratch.) I guess no engine is too far gone.

Mike

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WOW Mike… that is nothing short of miraculous - amazing work. Glad you could save that beautiful engine.

I took a ride to New Haven on Metro-North. Although the New Haven Railroad has been gone since 1969, evidence of it can still be found in town. First, there is Union Station, built in 1920. Also, the former headquarters building of the NYNH&HRR remains in active use on Meadow Street, just across from the station. Plaques with the railroad’s famous script logo are posted on both sides of the building’s front entrance. They appear to be original.

It’s also a great place to visit, especially if you like pizza.

MELGAR

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@LT1Poncho posted:

Since this thread has been "resurrected", I will show my own New Haven resurrecton.....Was running my favorite ABA Engine set, when something inside blew and it took off. Flew off the back curve of my layout and onto the only piece of non-carpeted hard tile floor in my basement. After a lot of repair, a new coat of paint, and new board, the engine is back and running again with its AB partners (Others of which survived without a scratch.) I guess no engine is too far gone.

Mike

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I couldn't agree with Paul more.  Wow!  You are a Master of Meticulousness.  No way I would have been able to mate up all those pieces into one credible whole like you did.

@MELGAR posted:

I took a ride to New Haven on Metro-North. Although the New Haven Railroad has been gone since 1969, evidence of it can still be found in town. First, there is Union Station, built in 1920. Also, the former headquarters building of the NYNH&HRR remains in active use on Meadow Street, just across from the station. Plaques with the railroad’s famous script logo are posted on both sides of the building’s front entrance. They appear to be original.

It’s also a great place to visit, especially if you like pizza.

MELGAR

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Also great Bar Chili  . At least in the early 90s. I was at a meeting at SNET; we walked across the Yale campus to a bar on the next block. My ears were smokin’

@LT1Poncho posted:

Since this thread has been "resurrected", I will show my own New Haven resurrecton.....Was running my favorite ABA Engine set, when something inside blew and it took off. Flew off the back curve of my layout and onto the only piece of non-carpeted hard tile floor in my basement. After a lot of repair, a new coat of paint, and new board, the engine is back and running again with its AB partners (Others of which survived without a scratch.) I guess no engine is too far gone.

Mike

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Jigsaw puzzles must hold no challenge for you!

I’ve been continuing to run my New Haven Railroad Alco PA A-A #0767/#0770 (MTH 20-21889-1 and 20-21890-1, PS3), a recently acquired custom run by forum sponsor MrMuffin’s Trains – shown with New Haven Alco DL-109 #0719 on my 12’-by-8’ layout.

As a New Haven fan, I thank MrMuffin for making these models. The colors and MTH Alco diesel engine sounds are terrific. At first, I bought just one model, #0767. After it arrived, I ordered #0770 to make an A-A set.

The warm orange/green roof/silver-gray pinstripe color scheme was used only on the New Haven’s first ten Alco PAs (Class DER-3a - #0760 to #0769 diesel-electric-road) delivered in 1948. In 1949, seventeen more PAs arrived and were painted in a Pullman green with gold stripes scheme similar to the Alco DL-109 (Class DER-1). The first ten engines were repainted into the green/gold scheme by the early 1950s. New Haven PA #0770 was delivered in 1949, so it was never painted in the original scheme and the colors on the model of #0770 are probably not authentic. Nonetheless, orange PA A-A sets and green DL-109s were both seen on the New Haven Railroad in 1948 and might have pulled heavyweight and “American Flyer” passenger cars.

The PAs were initially assigned to passenger service on the Shore Line between New Haven and Boston. Unlike the DL-109s, which had two 1,000 horsepower 539-T engines, the PAs each had a single four-cycle V-16 Alco 244 engine that developed 2,000 horsepower at 1,000 RPM and were geared for 80 miles-per-hour. In 1953, the New Haven’s fleet of 27 PAs were re-geared for 90 miles-per-hour and the last one was retired in 1965.

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