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Three Alco PAs on my 12’-by-8’ layout. A-A set #0770 and #0767 by MTH has the 1948 paint scheme of warm-orange, green roof and silver-gray pinstripes used on New Haven’s first 10 Alco PAs. #0771 by Sunset Models has the 1949 green and gold paint scheme used on its next 17 PAs. Locomotives with the 1948 paint scheme were repainted into the green and gold scheme in the early 1950s.

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Three Alco PAs on my 12’-by-8’ layout. A-A set #0770 and #0767 by MTH has the 1948 paint scheme of warm-orange, green roof and silver-gray pinstripes used on New Haven’s first 10 Alco PAs. #0771 by Sunset Models has the 1949 green and gold paint scheme used on its next 17 PAs. Locomotives with the 1948 paint scheme were repainted into the green and gold scheme in the early 1950s.

MELGAR

Nice Mel, always a pleasure watching your smooth running trains.

Gene




I know it's not scale; and, I know that the Helicopter Car and the Mecury Capsule Carrying Car never existed in real life, but, it's darn cute! (and, it's New Haven!)

Peter

It may not be exactly to scale but it looks right, which, to me, is the important thing.  It is a testimonial to the attractiveness, adaptability, and agelessness of those trains that they look so good in that setting and add to it.

Let's give Set# 11232 from 1962 a spin on the layout.......

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I know it's not scale; and, I know that the Helicopter Car and the Mecury Capsule Carrying Car never existed in real life, but, it's darn cute! (and, it's New Haven!)

Peter

@Putnam Division,

Peter,

Modeler's license is permissible, especially if it's New Haven.

I used to attend the annual meetings of the New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association - NHRHTA. There was a member who had a display of numerous "New Haven" model trains that "never existed in real life." He referred to his models as "Non-Haven."

So, just to contribute another example, first photo shows “Non-Haven” NE-6 caboose C-649 by MTH that ran on my layout this week. The New Haven Railroad never had a caboose of this type. Second photo shows a prototypical model of New Haven NE-6 caboose C-681 by Atlas O as it existed in real life.

The conclusion is that “Non-Havens” have been with us in O gauge for a long time and probably will continue to be in the future too.

MELGAR

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At the annual meetings of the New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association – NHRHTA – I used to see a member who had a display of numerous "New Haven" model trains that never existed in real life. He referred to his models as "Non-Havens."

Shown below are two “Non-Havens” that I noticed recently and found surprising.

First photo shows New Haven NE-6 Northeastern caboose C-649 by MTH.

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Second photo shows New Haven NE-6 Extended-Vision caboose C-649, also by MTH.

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The New Haven Railroad never had a caboose of either of these types. So, both are not only “Non-Havens” but they have the same road number – something that I thought MTH avoids on models that differ from each other.

Third photo shows a prototypical model of New Haven NE-6 caboose C-681 by Atlas O. In real life, this is how New Haven C-649 looked.

MELGAR_2024_1026_02_NEW_HAVEN_NE6_C681_ATLAS

The conclusion is that “Non-Havens” have been with us in O gauge for a long time and probably will continue to be in the future too.

MELGAR

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@MELGAR posted:

At the annual meetings of the New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association – NHRHTA – I used to see a member who had a display of numerous "New Haven" model trains that never existed in real life. He referred to his models as "Non-Havens."

Shown below are two “Non-Havens” that I noticed recently and found surprising.

First photo shows New Haven NE-6 Northeastern caboose C-649 by MTH.

MELGAR_2024_1026_01_NEW_HAVEN_NE6_C649_MTH

Second photo shows New Haven NE-6 Extended-Vision caboose C-649, also by MTH.

MELGAR2_2024_1104_73_NH_NE6_C649_EV_MTH

The New Haven Railroad never had a caboose of either of these types. So, both are not only “Non-Havens” but they have the same road number – something that I thought MTH avoids on models that differ from each other.

Third photo shows a prototypical model of New Haven NE-6 caboose C-681 by Atlas O. In real life, this is how New Haven C-649 looked.

MELGAR_2024_1026_02_NEW_HAVEN_NE6_C681_ATLAS

The conclusion is that “Non-Havens” have been with us in O gauge for a long time and probably will continue to be in the future too.

MELGAR

Isn’t that true of many models of several manufacturers? They use liveries of RR that never ran certain engines; but they bang them out.

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