Trying to identify a train.

Need more photos.  Might be early Scale Craft, but the sand dome and details are better than most Scale Craft.  Be sure to take photos of the underside of locomotive and tender.

Here are the pictures of the underside of the engine and tender

Hello interesting engine thank you for posting the additional pictures the boiler is sheet brass?

Doesn't do not appear to be scalecraft or anybody else I can pin a name on at this point

Not mini scale not miLoco, not Icken , not Scale Model Railways , not Alexander ...

Good chance scratch built ...

Nice vintage piece

Thanks, Carey.  The story is that friends of my great uncle saw it in a window around the 1939 NYC worlds Fair.  Here is a vintage shot of the train from the '40s.

Wow... whoever made it, it's lovely. 👍

Mark in Oregon

Here are a couple of additional shots

23" by 6" tall... that's bigger than O scale, isn't it guys?

Mark in Oregon

From memory, ISTR that the NYC Hudsons were shorter than would be expected. Something to do with low obstructions along the routes. I think around 15 feet above the rails. That would be 3.75" in 0 scale. This example appears to be about 5.5" high. So, yeah, not 0 scale.

But...the real ones were around 100 feet long, so in 0 scale that would be 100 quarters, or 25".  It doesn't appear to be out of proportion. So, what's the answer?

LCR3, can you tell us the distance between the rails, or between the flanges on the wheels?

15 feet in 3/8” to the foot scale would be 5 5/8” so it sounds like maybe it is 3/8” scale or 1:32.

Arthur P Bloom

Here is a shot of the track.

@Arthur P. Bloom posted:

LCR3, can you tell us the distance between the rails, or between the flanges on the wheels?

Yes, probably 1/32.   

4'8.5" = 56.5"

56.5" / 32 = 1.765"

Tis 1 gauge ...is the boiler a casting ???...

Could be 3/8" scale

Hello all...I think what you have is the 3/8" scale ( 1 gauge ) MiLoco Hudson ..1935-6 ..

If it follows the O gauge version ..would have a cast alumium boiler and tender .

Here is an ad from 1935 ...notice same # on tender .

If you would ever consider selling the engine I'd be very interested in adding to the collection .

MiLoco made both a Hudson and K4 ...both in 17/64th (O gauge ) and 3/8" ( 1 gauge ) ...

Cheers Carey

Bingo

@Carey Williams posted:

Hello all...I think what you have is the 3/8" scale ( 1 gauge ) MiLoco Hudson ..1935-6 ..

If it follows the O gauge version ..would have a cast alumium boiler and tender .

Here is an ad from 1935 ...notice same # on tender .

If you would ever consider selling the engine I'd be very interested in adding to the collection .

MiLoco made both a Hudson and K4 ...both in 17/64th (O gauge ) and 3/8" ( 1 gauge ) ...

Cheers Carey

Thanks for your help, Carey.  If I ever do decide to sell it, I will shoot you a note.  A couple quick questions if you wouldn't mind

1)  How would one find out the value of a vintage train?

2)  If it needs repairs or anything replaced, can you make a recommendation?

Thank you

Lincoln

Hello Lincoln values kind of a difficult thing to assess anything over a little bit outside the norm.

Generally the Vintage O scale Market the things are fairly reasonably priced because there's not very many people that collect it.

Vintage 1 gauge if it's the European manufacturers they're all over that early Marklien Bing Etc goes for good value depending on its Rarity and condition.

That all said please keep me in mind if you ever consider parting with it it's a lovely piece I'll pay a good price,

Repair there are some folks that do various repairs mostly in the tinplate world...

I'm sure the engine just needs a good cleaning and going over to make it run again.

Here is a photo with the two MiLoco

O gauge 17/64ths engines ..

Hudson was a display model still in, bare aluminum and brass...K4 painted

Cheers Carey

Its interesting, I was going to jump in initially and say Mi-Loco , there are some similarities to the 17/64 model, but not exactly the same. I realised Mi-Loco was going into the 1/32 s area, from there add's, but did not know they actually did a NYC Hudson, was there more than one? hope so!      cTr...( Choose the Right )

@Carey Williams posted:

Hello Lincoln values kind of a difficult thing to assess anything over a little bit outside the norm.

Generally the Vintage O scale Market the things are fairly reasonably priced because there's not very many people that collect it.

Vintage 1 gauge if it's the European manufacturers they're all over that early Marklien Bing Etc goes for good value depending on its Rarity and condition.

That all said please keep me in mind if you ever consider parting with it it's a lovely piece I'll pay a good price,

Repair there are some folks that do various repairs mostly in the tinplate world...

I'm sure the engine just needs a good cleaning and going over to make it run again.

Here is a photo with the two MiLoco

O gauge 17/64ths engines ..

Hudson was a display model still in, bare aluminum and brass...K4 painted

Cheers Carey

Thank you very much, Carey!