Finally there is a new/revised new product delivery schedule........thank you Lionel.
Dave
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Thanks for posting.
Hoped to see UP Excursion Cars on there...
Only 2 items scheduled for delivery in December 2017??? 
That CAN'T be right!!! 
David, youre late 
Moguls in July and mikados in August nice
But, where are all my milk cars???????
I guess even Lionel is tired of trying to throw all of the big stuff out to the public right during Christmas, so this is a nice change of pace. Provided things do get released as scheduled, that is. It looks like a rather hot summer for new trains.
I'll be looking forward to the Mikados mostly.
Passenger cars aren't even on the radar
No Freedom Train mention either! Oh well, I guess I will have to wait and hope for next year.
Rolland
Folks, I'm reading it this way, i. e., Lionel says here's the schedule as of 4/6/17. They're not precluding adding to it and updating later. We're only in early April after all.
I'd be amazed if we don't see the usual crush of items delivered in December.
Nice! More time to save the freedom train cars and Conrail OCS!
I can't wait for the NW2s August can't come soon enough.
I don't understand, where are all these passenger cars that came out in the 2016 catalogs? Where are the Amtrak streamlined passenger cars and their matching station sounds diner 6-82889!!!!!!!!!? Where are the UP excursion cars? Where are the American Freedom train cars? Where are the CSX business train cars? Where are all the other passenger cars. If the items from the next catalogs are arriving in the coming months how are these overdue cars not anywhere to be seen yet?
Looks like I will actually get my Halloween engine before I need it!
@T1Titan_ZachF posted:I don't understand, where are all these passenger cars that came out in the 2016 catalogs? Where are the Amtrak streamlined passenger cars and their matching station sounds diner 6-82889!!!!!!!!!? Where are the UP excursion cars? Where are the American Freedom train cars? Where are the CSX business train cars? Where are all the other passenger cars. If the items from the next catalogs are arriving in the coming months how are these overdue cars not anywhere to be seen yet?
Well the good news is since they are delayed maybe I will purchase one of those long haul K4s that come out in June...
J Daddy posted:@T1Titan_ZachF posted:I don't understand, where are all these passenger cars that came out in the 2016 catalogs? Where are the Amtrak streamlined passenger cars and their matching station sounds diner 6-82889!!!!!!!!!? Where are the UP excursion cars? Where are the American Freedom train cars? Where are the CSX business train cars? Where are all the other passenger cars. If the items from the next catalogs are arriving in the coming months how are these overdue cars not anywhere to be seen yet?
Well the good news is since they are delayed maybe I will purchase one of those long haul K4s that come out in June...
Way to look at the glass half full!
They moved the 180 Watt Power House out another 2 Months again.
Matt Makens posted:Passenger cars aren't even on the radar
Yep...more money for GGD cars.
@T1Titan_ZachF posted:I don't understand, where are all these passenger cars that came out in the 2016 catalogs? Where are the Amtrak streamlined passenger cars and their matching station sounds diner 6-82889!!!!!!!!!? Where are the UP excursion cars? Where are the American Freedom train cars? Where are the CSX business train cars? Where are all the other passenger cars. If the items from the next catalogs are arriving in the coming months how are these overdue cars not anywhere to be seen yet?
Zach,
Back on 3/30/17, in the other Lionel shipping schedule thread, Dave Olsen of Lionel reported that they were having tooling issues with the new passenger cars due to the fact that all new tooling is being made. He was hoping to have a further update around York time.
Nick
Matt Makens posted:David, youre late
Matt, not really. I just don't care anymore, so I don't look at the shipping schedule as often (if ever) these days... unless of course I see something like this thread. 
In the old days, I would have said something about the passenger cars not being listed. But there seems to be no lack of other folks who noticed that too.
David
@T1Titan_ZachF posted:... If the items from the next catalogs are arriving in the coming months how are these overdue cars not anywhere to be seen yet?
It's all part of the new world order of overseas manufacturing, where the tail wags the dog. 
The importers don't set the priorities. Instead the factories tell the importers what they want to make and when they'll make it. 
Or so it would seem.
David
It's all in good fun David, at least you're a good sport about it. I only noticed the lack of passenger cars cuz those and the SD45 are the only things I have on order. Now since I have three passenger trains onorder that's a big deal to me. I'm going to gave to get them shipped freight on a pallet since they'll all prolly come at once.
Matt Makens posted:It's all in good fun David, at least you're a good sport about it. I only noticed the lack of passenger cars cuz those and the SD45 are the only things I have on order. Now since I have three passenger trains onorder that's a big deal to me. I'm going to gave to get them shipped freight on a pallet since they'll all prolly come at once.
Yes, they will probably will come in all at once. It was this reason that I held off on just buying the U.P. excursion set. Just cannot afford that kind of bill.
As I said before, China doesn't care about anybody except themselves & unfortunately we can't seem to do anything about it even though we are paying them.
What about all of the unreleased LionScale rolling stock? It's made in USA, right? So, Lionel should not be at the mercy of foreign manufacturers on these items. I have never seen any of the LionScale items listed in the shipping schedule.
I contacted Lionel through Talk to Us back in February and was told that they are working on getting them out as they are completed. I had inquired specifically about the boxcars and was told they hoped to get them out by late Spring. If they are made in USA and expected to ship by late Spring, surely they should be listed on the shipping schedule.
What a pain, it's an image instead of a text list. Are any of the logging disconnect freight cars in there? I don't see them after scanning through it twice, but without being able to do a text search it's easy to miss things.
Im thinking of dropping everything but the Hustle Muscle and the UP Excursion. I like the UP excursion and so do all the folks at shows so I need that to go with my UP locos but I d rather just sell the remaining stuff im trying to round out like my GG1's and all my freight locos and use the money to do other things
sinclair posted:What a pain, it's an image instead of a text list.
Thank you for the explanation; that's why the "find" function in my browser doesn't work!
There are a number of items that still need to be added to the list but haven't yet because we don't yet have a firm ship date. These include the following:
- 21" Passenger Cars - tooling issue
- Scale Milk Cars - will have a date soon
- Rotary Gondolas - will have a date soon
- Disconnect Cars (logging and other accessory versions) - tooling issue
- LionScale - the guys are working on a manufacturing schedule now.
We're not at the mercy of the factories. We have very good relationships with our factories and collaborate to make production schedules each year. Issues arise in making the products themselves (like the tooling problem with the passenger cars). But yes, we do set project priorities.
Everything listed above will be shipped this year. We just can't nail down a date yet until issues are resolved.
Also, the list is an "image" file as it was made in Excel due to the regular schedule software still having an issue. We did this to let people know dates. Just trying to help.
Dave Olson posted:There are a number of items that still need to be added to the list but haven't yet because we don't yet have a firm ship date. These include the following:
- 21" Passenger Cars - tooling issue
- Scale Milk Cars - will have a date soon
- Rotary Gondolas - will have a date soon
- Disconnect Cars (logging and other accessory versions) - tooling issue
- LionScale - the guys are working on a manufacturing schedule now.
We're not at the mercy of the factories. We have very good relationships with our factories and collaborate to make production schedules each year. Issues arise in making the products themselves (like the tooling problem with the passenger cars). But yes, we do set project priorities.
Everything listed above will be shipped this year. We just can't nail down a date yet until issues are resolved.
Also, the list is an "image" file as it was made in Excel due to the regular schedule software still having an issue. We did this to let people know dates. Just trying to help.
Thanks for the insight it's well appreciated.
elementdude195 posted:Dave Olson posted:There are a number of items that still need to be added to the list but haven't yet because we don't yet have a firm ship date. These include the following:
- 21" Passenger Cars - tooling issue
- Scale Milk Cars - will have a date soon
- Rotary Gondolas - will have a date soon
- Disconnect Cars (logging and other accessory versions) - tooling issue
- LionScale - the guys are working on a manufacturing schedule now.
We're not at the mercy of the factories. We have very good relationships with our factories and collaborate to make production schedules each year. Issues arise in making the products themselves (like the tooling problem with the passenger cars). But yes, we do set project priorities.
Everything listed above will be shipped this year. We just can't nail down a date yet until issues are resolved.
Also, the list is an "image" file as it was made in Excel due to the regular schedule software still having an issue. We did this to let people know dates. Just trying to help.
Thanks for the insight it's well appreciated.
Yes Thank you Dave for your input. After Mike left a vacuum with his departure from Lionel I was wondering who would fill the void to keep us train geeks informed and happy.
Thank you, Dave, for your timely response!
VinceL posted:What about all of the unreleased LionScale rolling stock? It's made in USA, right? So, Lionel should not be at the mercy of foreign manufacturers on these items. I have never seen any of the LionScale items listed in the shipping schedule.
I contacted Lionel through Talk to Us back in February and was told that they are working on getting them out as they are completed. I had inquired specifically about the boxcars and was told they hoped to get them out by late Spring. If they are made in USA and expected to ship by late Spring, surely they should be listed on the shipping schedule.
Agree - hoppers are now several months overdue already
I received my LionScale Southern Railway hoppers today.
Neal Jeter
I can't complain if this holds. The PRR E8s I pre-ordered today were originally slated for Oct/Nov but now they're saying August. One can hope.
I was looking for the 3-16010 Railbox and the B&O Milkcar 6-83576. Mr. Olson has addressed the milkcars (thank-you) but I am wondering about the "3-" series item originally slated to ship Nov. 2016. Both are from the 2016 Vol. 2 catalog.
Thanks,
TRRR
