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Over the years I've used Evergreen body putty to fill voids in models but sometimes it shrinks requiring multiple applications.  I've rea somewhere that JB Weld works better as it doesn't shrink.  The project at hand is replacing the oversized headlights on a Sunset PRR Brill gas electric.  In my parts bin were two correct size headlight castings that came off another model.  Unfortunately  one had a very large hole in its back that will need to be filled and drilled.  I don't want to use solder to fill the hole as the headlight would likely break free from its body before the solder would fill the void.   JB Weld lists several products on their web site and I'd like to confirm which of the products would work best on the headlight casting.  From reading about the products I think AutoWeld best suites the job.  While I'm buying I'll probably also pick up some PlasticWeld product for other applications.  Comments/recommendations?

Ed Rappe

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JB Weld comes in different formulations and different cure rates, but are great for making repairs.  It can be filed, carved, sanded, as long as it is cured.  I have made extensive repairs on broken marker light on Postwar, cracked and broken Prewar parts.  If you are creative, and have duplicate items, where one has a broken part, you can make plaster molds from the good item, and rebuild a broken part from JB Weld.  It takes a little creativity, but can be done with a little patience.  Just check the various JBWelds to see what is best suited for what you want to accomplish.

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When it comes to body filler there are lots of factors to consider.  for plugging a hole, even a tiny one, it's probably the wrong product as body filler has no structural strength.  The suggestions of JB KWIK or just about any epoxy are better choices.  

This kinda goes off on a tangent, so feel free to tune out.  


 

The comment on cracking Bondo got me thinking, though so I thought I'd offer my 2 cents.  I haven't been in the field for 10 years, so I'm sure there is new product out there, but do have several years experience in auto body work, and am familiar with the basic products used... and the ways they are often mis-used.  When it comes to something as small as an O gauge train, even medium build body filler such as bondo seems like it would be of limited use.  

In auto-body a product such as Dura-glass is used for large, rough-in repairs in combination with fiberglass sheeting.  almost never the actually correct way to fix the damage, but it's cheap and gets the job done.  In most cases medium weight body filler is used next.  For cars this product works great.  but on trains?  I think it would still be too rough. This is a product like Bondo, though the actual brand name Bondo is not very good and prone to cracking.  At the shop I worked we used Evercoat brand products, and can not recall ever having problems with cracking.  All body fillers can crack or shrink, though, and this is often cause by adding too much hardener when mixing.    When it comes to detail, you can only sand this stuff down to about 120 grit, after that it won't get any smoother and we typically finished there with 80 grit.  

When it comes to filling on a model train I think the next step down would be the most useful.  A body glaze filler is used to fill small scratches and rock chips.  this stuff works just like a bondo product, but is much thinner.  the stuff we used would sand nicely to 240, or finer.  I think Body glaze is gonna be the product you want for 'body work' on your model trains.   Your JB Weld will behave much like a body glaze, but dry much harder.  Good for replacing metal parts, not so much for fine detail sanding.  The glaze is also cured to a sand-able level in 5-10 minutes.  

The last bit that many people don't tend to realized is part of the actual body work is the primer.  A good primer will fill small imperfections, and most importantly it fills the scratches from sanding body filler.  wet sanding primer with 400-600 grip paper provides a nice smooth finish.  

 

TLDR:  Bondo (medium build body filler) is probably too coarse of a product to use for models.  try the next step up and use body glaze, and don't count on body filler to plug holes, it doesn't provide structure.  sort of like filling a hole in a wall by spreading mud over it.  works fine until someone pushes on it.  

JGL

 

I used Bondo to re-contour a GG1 body a couple decades ago.  It is still absolutely beautiful.  I did prime and sand, as suggested above.  I think JB Kwik is the right stuff for a small build up.

When I was a kid, I thought body work absolutely had to be hammer weld and lead.  Later on I got lazy, and fixed some stuff on my Mustangs with Bondo.  That was in the 1970s.  The Bondo is still there, no cracks.  

I also used it in 1966 on my aircraft cowl, which was not perfectly smooth, since I hammered th sheet metal into concrete form blocks.  The cowl is a little worn from 4000 hours of flying, but the contours are still crack- free.

JohnGaltLine posted:

Your JB Weld will behave much like a body glaze, but dry much harder.  Good for replacing metal parts, not so much for fine detail sanding.  The glaze is also cured to a sand-able level in 5-10 minutes. 

I have no issues sanding JB Weld, it's very workable after the fact.  I've never used "body glaze", so I can't compare them, but I have used JB Weld to fill and form lots of stuff, works great.

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