We all know the regular Tender wheel slip from a stopped position, but the "In Motion" wheel slip is super cool when running the engine. Looks awesome running up a grade. Check it out.
I am really liking this engine!
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That Army version is certainly a handsome rascal! Thanks Sean
The feature is really cool, probably one of the best "effects" that Lionel has offered so far.
However with all the issues in 4D mode, I worry about Lionel's ability to support all these features in the long term.
A really cool feature? Say WHAT?
I'm sorry, but I think that it the silliest thing I've ever seen on a steam loco model.
When the drivers slip on a real steamer, they don't just stop slipping by themselves. The engineer has to shut off the throttle to stop the slip, then widen out on it again to keep moving. And it is a serious situation, not something "cool."
Good grief... 
@Rich Melvin posted:A really cool feature? Say WHAT?
I'm sorry, but I think that it the silliest thing I've ever seen on a steam loco model.
When the drivers slip on a real steamer, they don't just stop slipping by themselves. The engineer has to shut off the throttle to stop the slip, then widen out on it again to keep moving. And it is a serious situation, not something "cool."
Good grief...
LOL, it's just a toy and fun. No one will be hurt by my model train.
Can't win here, no matter what I say.
Come on Rich. Give us a break here. Yes, they are supposedly scale replicas but to us they are still toy trains running on 3 rail non prototypical track. Spin those wheels baby. I love it.
@rplst8 posted:Can't win here, no matter what I say.
My comment was not directed at you, personally. It’s a general comment about something that I consider a useless and silly feature on a model locomotive. In my opinion, it would have been better to put that development money into building in more reliability and improved performance instead of adding useless “bling.”
However, I understand that many of you consider these models to be “toys”, and this feature is certainly more toy-like than prototypical.
@Rich Melvin posted:In my opinion, it would have been better to put that development money into building in more reliability and improved performance instead of adding useless “bling.”
Now there's something we can agree on!
It is nifty. Definitely increases the play value as well. This locomotive has really impressed me when I pull a ton of coal hoppers behind it. I think the general proportions just look great in the context of a coal drag. Could just be the third set of drivers, hard to say! I'll be glad I have this locomotive once I get my lower level built and coal drags have to traverse a helix to reach their destination.
I sure hope Lionel did some sort of robust gear box on that back engine for y’all’s sake, …what’s going to happen to these things in the longevity department for those that actually run their stuff often, and not just 10-15 minutes, then back on the shelf for a year. One thing sticks out in my mind, lately, Lionel’s overseas vendor has been hit or miss on the amount of grease they put in this product, ( more miss than hit ) and what little grease they do give ya, is of questionable value IMO, …..you fellas that love this feature, better plan on some preventive maintenance & routine maintenance, if you plan on running it often…..we’ll see what happens with these locomotives after the warranty period expires……with BTO planning, I’ll bet replacement parts will be scarce, that is if they exist at all…..
Pat
@harmonyards I have similar concerns at the moment because mine sounds super dry. I haven't used the feature a lot, cranked the throttle, or ran it for long periods of time until I open it up for grease.
@BillYo414 posted:@harmonyards I have similar concerns at the moment because mine sounds super dry. I haven't used the feature a lot, cranked the throttle, or ran it for long periods of time until I open it up for grease.
I think all of y’all better have concerns for this, …..if they used that crappy compound gear box in that rearward most engine, just pumping some grease through the grease port on the base pan of the frame isn’t going to accomplish much…..Billy, can you look and see the rear engine’s gear driven wheel set, and peek through the drivers and see if you spot an intermediate shaft? …..it’ll be clear as day if it’s there or not, ….if so, I’d hit that with some heavier oil like motor oil,…..
Pat
It looks very cool. I wish I had O-72 curves to run one!
Pretty interesting HO Triplex that just popped up on Al Pugliese Trains. Uses 3 decoders and 3 motors to produce wheel slip at command.
That engine was moving with the tender drivers and the front drivers locked up and sliding! Now THAT’S very prototypical.
I don’t care if it’s “just a toy.” That is just plain awful.
@Rich Melvin posted:That engine was moving with the tender drivers and the front drivers locked up and sliding! Now THAT’S very prototypical.
I don’t care if it’s “just a toy.” That is just plain awful.
Hokey way to control the drivers, that's for sure! It does looks stupid with the tender drivers dragging. 
And I'm guessing it's a pretty expensive "toy" too boot!
At least Lionel got a little closer in looking like prototypical operation. But those guys were sure proud of their creation. 
I get great wheel slip on my 3 rail steam locomotives where the traction tires have come off. It is surprisingly realistic watching the drivers spin and then finally grab the rail starting a train.
Thanks for the great video and in my opinion, this is another GREAT feature that adds fun to the hobby!
Realism is nice BUT running trains on three rails, come, on, give Lionel a break for creating an amazing product and continuing to innovate.
These days, we all (especially me) need a break from the realism of the day!
My advice: Run trains often and enjoy the day all OGR train lovers!
Stan
@BillYo414 posted:@harmonyards I have similar concerns at the moment because mine sounds super dry. I haven't used the feature a lot, cranked the throttle, or ran it for long periods of time until I open it up for grease.
Just oil axles, it will quiet right up. Mine was noisy out off box. Just dry axles.
I appreciate the insight. I'll start there.
Then I'll have to make some adjustments for the whistle steam haha
@harmonyards not easy to spot because it's encased in a chassis like the new A5. I only looked from the side. I didn't flip it upside down. This engine is a pain to handle so I'll save that for another night. A few of my other locomotives are due for inspection/maintenance.
