I'm trying to repair my late father's 152 crossing gate and cannot find any documentation available in the usual sources for it. There's certainly a parts explosion for the successor 252 but most parts would not seem interchangeable between the two. There's a reference in Tandem to a 152-40 instruction sheet (not useful given the picture I found of it) and a 152-54 sheet on adjusting the spring (also probably not on point for repairs - although I've not seen a picture). I'm assuming individual NOS or repro parts are essentially unobtainium, necessitating a donor unit (which I bought for this purpose - but it worked better than mine so I started using it) but it'd be nice to try - if I could figure out what the part numbers are.
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Not from Lionel anyway.
Does the solenoid work when you apply power? If so, what needs repair? It's a pretty simple mechanism.
The main issue I had with mine was it did not return to "up." Lubrication and widening the arms improved but did not solve. I added brass rectangles inside the counterweights, and that worked. I lubricated the solenoid as well as the moving parts.
@Ken Wing posted:Does the solenoid work when you apply power? If so, what needs repair? It's a pretty simple mechanism.
It does - but the main problem is that the cam/pawl (which appears to be made of some sort of pot metal) fractured. I was going to see if I could source that part. It still has the second, pedestrian gate (albeit a bit temperamental - as are all of them) so would like to salvage it. But, I might be headed for purchasing another donor...
Lionel put out a parts list for the 152 crossing gate at least twice in postwar literature. They have been reproduced many times in various publications.
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@David Johnston posted:Lionel put out a parts list for the 152 crossing gate at least twice in postwar literature. They have been reproduced many times in various publications.
Thank you so much for posting this - I'll admit I've never seen this. Might I ask what book(s) you took those pictures from?
The 152 parts lists were in “Greenberg’s Lionel Service Manual” by I D Smith. But the first copy of the Service Manual that was reprinted was by TCA and the reprinting was managed by Bruce Greenberg. It came in 3 or 4 loose leaf binders. This was in the mid 1960s I think. A number of company’s have reprinted the condensed version, which is mostly the illustrated items. Most items in the service manual were not illustrated. LCCA has most of it digital on their web site. Bob Osterhoff, Trainpaper.com, sells the service manual, and lots of other Lionel documents, in a digital form. In additional to the Service Manual, Lionel put out price lists every year or two. In the era before the internet if a service station needed a part they put a request in an envelope, typically paid for with postage stamps, and sent it off to Lionel. In a couple of weeks, the parts needed showed up. To make this work Lionel had to put the part numbers, description, and current price in to the hands of their service stations regularly. One reason there are so many copies of the service manual and parts lists reprinted is it was not copyrighted.
Train Tender https://ttender.com/partslist.html has the part: 152-12, the rocker arm. Look on page 2, Lionel postwar parts by number, and scroll down to 152-12. There's a link to click on to see a photo.
Ken Wing That is some great information. JTrains I have one on the bench now, I will try to find time after things slow down and see about taking it apart to assemble it correctly - though it seems like a waste of time, with other crossing gates looking so much better. Still, I hate to toss a 70 year old item for want of a repair, if it can be done.
It appears, that for the tension on the spring, the screw on the bottom can be turned to adjust it. Mine is "together" meaning the guts are in there, but the coil base has been nearly pulled out, (the spring is holding it in the housing) and now will not push back up into the housing. I am guessing that "cam" unit is holding it out. Directions below state to drive the pivot pin out.....guess I will try that.
Thanks for the thread, I recently revived one here: https://ogrforum.com/topic/is-...8#188663164454528358
Greg
@David Johnston posted:The 152 parts lists were in “Greenberg’s Lionel Service Manual” by I D Smith.
@David Johnston ah - you learn something new every day. I always had thought that the "Service Manual" books were just a prior version / re-badge of the "Repair and Operating Manual" books (of which I have a pair: the softback 7th ed. and a hardback K-Line version from the 1980s). I remember excitedly buying my K-Line version from (I think) Stan Orr when I was in high-school even though I wasn't much into trains at the time - in the days pre-Internet, I thought that might be the only chance to get a copy of such valuable information.
@Ken Wing thank you for the pointer. I was reviewing the list of parts trying to decipher which one I needed by the names. By process of elimination I had settled on the "rocker arm" but hadn't gone looking for it yet.
@cngw my thoughts exactly, I too hate to write something off as "not worth repairing" - although I'm going to have to have a think about the 2037 I was 99% finished getting running last week from an incomplete box of parts, only to have one of the rollers crack the shoe plate while doing final tests. Grrr.